Longacre Doubling: Some considerations

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Treashunt, Jun 29, 2009.

  1. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Thanks, Viper.

    As you can see from this picture, the 'doubling' to the letters is a clear outline to the letters.

    Also, note that the outline is flat (as often stated: shelf like). This is important. The outline to the letters is much lower than the 'original' lettering. The net result is not a duplicate, as shown on the 1955 DDO above.

    The 1955 DDO (doubled die obverse) clearly shows that both sets of numbers are the same height. This is a true classic example of a doubled die.
     

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  3. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Alrighty those pics did it for me! That helps me out a TON!
    THANKS GUYS
     
  4. micheldura2

    micheldura2 Senior Member

    Great information! Thanks for the info
     
  5. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Good read Treashunt.

    So good in fact that I actually read it all!

    clembo
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Clembo:
    Thank you for the kind words.
     
  7. Mumbapuri

    Mumbapuri #16443

    Nice informative piece frank :) thx for sharing... btw nice close-ups of the doubling... can i request you to post a pic of the entire coin :)
    sorry for the late repy, just got back from 48hr shift :|
     
  8. kidromeo

    kidromeo I M LEGEND

    Nice informative read Frank. Thanks
     
  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Thank you for all of your kind words.
     
  10. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    This thread needs a bump since it answers the question I had on my 1866 multiple error Indian. I thought I was going for the Quad and have to settle for Thin Planchet, Clash and Recut Date. I suppose I could call it 3 and a half errors with the Longacre Doubling.
     
  11. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Longacre doubling carries no premium at this point in time only because the coin collecting community has taken that position. Consensus opinion is the doubling is attributable to the die making process originating more than likely with the master die or working hub. Being that this anomaly originates in the die making process and transferred through that process to the working die - it can be argued that Longacre doubling is a variety. It certainly isn't anything similar to mechanical/machine doubling which produces an anomaly attributable to the coin striking process.
     
  12. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I would personally desire that coins with non value added errors not be included with the group without errors such as Post Mint damage. Value added is about pricing. Errors are about deviation from expected product outside of acceptable tolerances.

    Too many seem to think that only value added errors are worthy of discussion or even acknowledgment. It's a sad day for the numismatist when value becomes the foremost consideration to the science and love of the process and product.
     
  13. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Bumped to go with the Expert Assistance Request Thread.
     
  14. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    great write-up, good read! certainly explains a lot.
     
  15. kaparthy

    kaparthy Well-Known Member

    Yea, verily, yea.
     
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