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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;kirispupis, post: 7875510, member: 118780&quot;]This was not EBay. It was on an auction site many here use.</p><p><br /></p><p>FWIW, the following is the &quot;experiment&quot; that I tried: I bid on 16 different coins at 4 auction houses (none were EBay since I have 0% trust in them).</p><p><br /></p><p>House 1: Did pre-bids for two coins. Bid last minute on two others. Of the two pre-bids, I was outbid on one and received the other at my max. The other two I received at the opening bid price.</p><p><br /></p><p>House 2: Bid on one coin with a pre-bid and won it at my max.</p><p><br /></p><p>House 3: Bid on 10 coins with pre-bids and won 5. All five I won were at the max or one below max.</p><p><br /></p><p>House 4: Bid last second on one coin, and won it at 30% below my max.</p><p><br /></p><p>There seem to be two possibilities here:</p><p>a) I&#039;ve become awesome at predicting hammer prices.</p><p>b) Shill bidding is real.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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