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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;kirispupis, post: 7875145, member: 118780&quot;]I agree that being outbid doesn&#039;t confirm shill bids, but what I&#039;ve been finding is that my max bid or one below my max bid is being hit more often than one would expect statistically.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, I do get outbid, but my suspicion is those are real people and they&#039;re paying their maxes too. There was a recent auction in which every coin I won either went for my max or one below my max. On one coin I lost, it went for 6x my max. This max was based on what I&#039;d paid recently for a similar coin (also received at my max). Sure, I understand that obviously someone wanted that coin far more than I, but he placed his max bid at the very end, and someone put a slightly lower bid immediately after him. That seems very suspicious.</p><p><br /></p><p>I hope to avoid this auction in the future, but the problem is they tend to have really nice coins. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Live bidding won&#039;t help in this case because I suspect it&#039;s done by software. So, if I do find something I can&#039;t resist, I&#039;ll just put in my max and understand that if I win the coin, that&#039;s what I&#039;m paying.</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3">(Disclaimer: </font>these are just my <i>suspicions</i>. I have absolutely no proof to back this up, but I&#039;m certainly not the only one who&#039;s noticed this)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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