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<p>[QUOTE="kirispupis, post: 7873600, member: 118780"]Here's an <a href="https://news.coinupdate.com/shill-bidding-in-online-auctions/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://news.coinupdate.com/shill-bidding-in-online-auctions/" rel="nofollow">article</a> I found that discusses suspected shill bidding at London Coins. Evidently the consignors sometimes bid on their own coins, though if London Coins sees this they'll remove the bids. Also, there's no way for the consignor to see your max.</p><p><br /></p><p>After trying a few experiments at several different auction houses, it's my belief that shill bidding is real. There are certain companies I suspect more than others, but I've moved to placing no pre-bids and to do all my bidding in the live part. Unfortunately, even that doesn't completely protect against shill bidding because those companies with their own software can easily perform it automatically to ensure that whenever you submit your bid, you'll always pay near your max.</p><p><br /></p><p>As a buyer, I really think there's only three things I can do to combat shill bids:</p><p>1) Send all of my bids live</p><p>2) Understand that, at certain auctions at least, I need to be prepared to pay my max.</p><p>3) For auctions I suspect to have automated shill bidding, only bid if there's something I know I'm not going to find elsewhere.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="kirispupis, post: 7873600, member: 118780"]Here's an [URL='https://news.coinupdate.com/shill-bidding-in-online-auctions/']article[/URL] I found that discusses suspected shill bidding at London Coins. Evidently the consignors sometimes bid on their own coins, though if London Coins sees this they'll remove the bids. Also, there's no way for the consignor to see your max. After trying a few experiments at several different auction houses, it's my belief that shill bidding is real. There are certain companies I suspect more than others, but I've moved to placing no pre-bids and to do all my bidding in the live part. Unfortunately, even that doesn't completely protect against shill bidding because those companies with their own software can easily perform it automatically to ensure that whenever you submit your bid, you'll always pay near your max. As a buyer, I really think there's only three things I can do to combat shill bids: 1) Send all of my bids live 2) Understand that, at certain auctions at least, I need to be prepared to pay my max. 3) For auctions I suspect to have automated shill bidding, only bid if there's something I know I'm not going to find elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
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