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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1246391, member: 27832"]On the topic of returning coins won on eBay:</p><p><br /></p><p>As I documented in earlier threads <a href="http://www.cointalk.com/t172193/?highlight=" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/t172193/?highlight=">here</a> and <a href="http://www.cointalk.com/t175499/?highlight=" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.cointalk.com/t175499/?highlight=">here</a>, I bought a counterfeit coin from eBay, and got a full refund via Buyer Protection. Both eBay and PayPal confirmed that I did <i>not</i> need to return the counterfeit. This makes sense; if I returned it, there would be nothing to prevent the seller from attempting to pass it again elsewhere.</p><p><br /></p><p>More recently, I bought a "$20 gold double eagle" that turned out to be a cheap oversized novelty item. I've won my Buyer Protection claim there, too, but I described it in my report as a "novelty item" rather than a "counterfeit". In this case, eBay <i>is</i> requiring me to return it (at their expense) in order to claim my refund. I'm happy to do so, because no reasonable person could mistake this for an authentic coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, based on two data points, I can guess that eBay generally requires you to return Not As Described items as part of the Buyer Protection process, but that they make an exception for counterfeits. I'd need more data points to be confident, though -- and while Buyer Protection has come through for me consistently so far, it's enough of a hassle that I'm becoming a little less aggressive on what I'm willing to bid on.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1246391, member: 27832"]On the topic of returning coins won on eBay: As I documented in earlier threads [URL="http://www.cointalk.com/t172193/?highlight="]here[/URL] and [URL="http://www.cointalk.com/t175499/?highlight="]here[/URL], I bought a counterfeit coin from eBay, and got a full refund via Buyer Protection. Both eBay and PayPal confirmed that I did [I]not[/I] need to return the counterfeit. This makes sense; if I returned it, there would be nothing to prevent the seller from attempting to pass it again elsewhere. More recently, I bought a "$20 gold double eagle" that turned out to be a cheap oversized novelty item. I've won my Buyer Protection claim there, too, but I described it in my report as a "novelty item" rather than a "counterfeit". In this case, eBay [I]is[/I] requiring me to return it (at their expense) in order to claim my refund. I'm happy to do so, because no reasonable person could mistake this for an authentic coin. So, based on two data points, I can guess that eBay generally requires you to return Not As Described items as part of the Buyer Protection process, but that they make an exception for counterfeits. I'd need more data points to be confident, though -- and while Buyer Protection has come through for me consistently so far, it's enough of a hassle that I'm becoming a little less aggressive on what I'm willing to bid on.[/QUOTE]
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