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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Cherd, post: 22824840, member: 24754&quot;]Tiberius&#039; first wife... Vipsania Agrippina? Well, throwing yet another candidate into the pool certainly doesn&#039;t clarify things <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>From what I&#039;ve been able to find on the subject, scholars had tended to believe that the originals were representations of Livia. A reference published in 2000 that I found (Imperial Women: A Study in Public Images, Vol 194, pg 177) said,</p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;<i>Tiberius attempted to suggest his dynastic plans subtly and discreetly to the Senate and public, as his treatment of <span style="color: #ff0000">his own mother</span> has indicated: he was <span style="color: #ff4d4d">willing to make use of her image on the coins of A.D. 22</span>, for example, but not to institutionalize her role with official titles and privileges. <span style="color: #ff0000">None of the younger women of his family, therefore, appeared on coins at all during his principate</span>, and we consequently lack the most useful form of evidence for their identifications in other media.</i>&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>It seems the idea that the representation might be Livilla was proposed by David Vagi (Coinage and History of the Roman Empire II, pg. 127). I don&#039;t have access to that text though.</p><p><br /></p><p>And then there&#039;s the Jasper Burns&#039; argument that you linked. Thanks for that by the way, I somehow managed to miss coming across that one!</p><p><br /></p><p>Oh well, taking all of this into consideration, I think I&#039;m just gonna chalk this one up to a great big, &quot;WE DON&#039;T KNOW&quot;. At least that eliminates the possibility of being wrong. Like you suggested, in reality these coins may not have been intended to represent a real person at all, then the joke would truly be on us haha![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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