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<p>[QUOTE="Cherd, post: 22772801, member: 24754"]Livia and Livilla are both on my "Bust coins that I'd like to get" list. So far as I've been able to tell, Livia appears on some provincial coinage. However, Livilla only appears on these dupondii.</p><p><br /></p><p>There seems to have been 2 variations issued under Tiberius for Drusus as Caesar, one variation is a woman "as Justitia" and another "as Pietas". A restoration issue was then released under Titus, which seem to be attempts at reproducing the coin designs with the reverse legends being the only big difference.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1545183[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm confused by the fact that some of these coins are claimed to be "Livia as" and some are claimed to be "Livilla as", but I can't find any indicator on the coins by which these assumptions are being made. So:</p><p><br /></p><p>- Am I missing something that indicates the difference?</p><p><br /></p><p>- Did the Titus issues wrongly assume that both were Livia, even though the original issues depicted different women?</p><p><br /></p><p>- Or is there no way to tell who it is supposed to be, and we think that all of them could be either woman?</p><p><br /></p><p>I ask because, while searching through auction listings, it seems as though the coins consistently bring more money when claimed to be Livilla. This leads me to believe that there is a way to tell, however, I suppose that it could also be a marketing ploy to dupe ignorant buyers (Like me <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />).</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit: Not my coins by the way.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cherd, post: 22772801, member: 24754"]Livia and Livilla are both on my "Bust coins that I'd like to get" list. So far as I've been able to tell, Livia appears on some provincial coinage. However, Livilla only appears on these dupondii. There seems to have been 2 variations issued under Tiberius for Drusus as Caesar, one variation is a woman "as Justitia" and another "as Pietas". A restoration issue was then released under Titus, which seem to be attempts at reproducing the coin designs with the reverse legends being the only big difference. [ATTACH=full]1545183[/ATTACH] I'm confused by the fact that some of these coins are claimed to be "Livia as" and some are claimed to be "Livilla as", but I can't find any indicator on the coins by which these assumptions are being made. So: - Am I missing something that indicates the difference? - Did the Titus issues wrongly assume that both were Livia, even though the original issues depicted different women? - Or is there no way to tell who it is supposed to be, and we think that all of them could be either woman? I ask because, while searching through auction listings, it seems as though the coins consistently bring more money when claimed to be Livilla. This leads me to believe that there is a way to tell, however, I suppose that it could also be a marketing ploy to dupe ignorant buyers (Like me :(). Edit: Not my coins by the way.[/QUOTE]
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