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<p>[QUOTE="Finn235, post: 7755780, member: 98035"]I think that the identity of Tiberius' SALVS as Livia is a bit more widely accepted</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1328716[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Compare the shape of the head to known provincials of Livia</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1328718[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1328719[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Drusus' PIETAS I think is a little more controversial- I have heard arguments for Livia and his mother Vipsania or wife Livilla- IMO the shape of the nose and especially the jawline indicates a different person- whether real or imaginary, who can say?</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1328717[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>As for Caesonia, yeah it's a 50/50 shot whether it's actually her, but given that the only coins that bear her name are like R4 rare, SAL AVG is the best most of us will have</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1328721[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>For what it's worth, in the 1st century it was an established trend to depict empresses "as" a goddess -</p><p><br /></p><p>My well-loved example doesn't show it very well, but this issue of Pergamon for Livia and Julia presents them as Livia, Hera and Julia, Aphrodite</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1328723[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Finn235, post: 7755780, member: 98035"]I think that the identity of Tiberius' SALVS as Livia is a bit more widely accepted [ATTACH=full]1328716[/ATTACH] Compare the shape of the head to known provincials of Livia [ATTACH=full]1328718[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1328719[/ATTACH] Drusus' PIETAS I think is a little more controversial- I have heard arguments for Livia and his mother Vipsania or wife Livilla- IMO the shape of the nose and especially the jawline indicates a different person- whether real or imaginary, who can say? [ATTACH=full]1328717[/ATTACH] As for Caesonia, yeah it's a 50/50 shot whether it's actually her, but given that the only coins that bear her name are like R4 rare, SAL AVG is the best most of us will have [ATTACH=full]1328721[/ATTACH] For what it's worth, in the 1st century it was an established trend to depict empresses "as" a goddess - My well-loved example doesn't show it very well, but this issue of Pergamon for Livia and Julia presents them as Livia, Hera and Julia, Aphrodite [ATTACH=full]1328723[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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