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<p>[QUOTE="civitas, post: 3618209, member: 1604"]As "the closest fella specialising in these kinds of coins" I can help clarify that the coin is in fact a contemporary counterfeit of the silver wash over brass/copper type. It is not the Rietberg type, as they specifically say EOED RIDTHF (or some derivative thereof) in the legend. This example bears the legend imitating the genuine coins of the province of Holland (ORDIN* HOL*).</p><p><br /></p><p>I am including a better photograph that shows correct color and better detail of the piece. If you look closely at the center of the edge photo, you can see where the sunken area protected the silver wash from wearing off, but on the higher areas the brass is showing through. The weight of 23.4g. is significantly below correct weight standard for the genuine issues. Note the cuts/scratches on the soldier's midsection. It is likely someone was suspicious of this piece at the time it was circulating, and they cut/scratched the coin to try and see if there was underlying base metal. An interesting piece for sure, but not a genuine lion daalder.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://www.civitasgalleries.com/tempimages/1589Holland_Counterfeit.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="civitas, post: 3618209, member: 1604"]As "the closest fella specialising in these kinds of coins" I can help clarify that the coin is in fact a contemporary counterfeit of the silver wash over brass/copper type. It is not the Rietberg type, as they specifically say EOED RIDTHF (or some derivative thereof) in the legend. This example bears the legend imitating the genuine coins of the province of Holland (ORDIN* HOL*). I am including a better photograph that shows correct color and better detail of the piece. If you look closely at the center of the edge photo, you can see where the sunken area protected the silver wash from wearing off, but on the higher areas the brass is showing through. The weight of 23.4g. is significantly below correct weight standard for the genuine issues. Note the cuts/scratches on the soldier's midsection. It is likely someone was suspicious of this piece at the time it was circulating, and they cut/scratched the coin to try and see if there was underlying base metal. An interesting piece for sure, but not a genuine lion daalder. [IMG]http://www.civitasgalleries.com/tempimages/1589Holland_Counterfeit.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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