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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;robinjojo, post: 8297038, member: 110226&quot;]I&#039;ve got to go through my boxes and pull out some ducatons.&nbsp; They are wonderful coins to handle, given their size and design.</p><p><br /></p><p>I did photograph a couple more lion daalders today.</p><p><br /></p><p>The first one, from Friesland, is more typical of coins from this mint than the OP coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is a rough coin, in terms of surfaces (been around the block a few times), flan flaws and crude strike.</p><p><br /></p><p>The date (1)625, on the reverse, is a rarer date for this mint.&nbsp; The design of the legends is also different, compared to the OP coin, which has the format of lion daalder going back to 1575.&nbsp; The obverse reads &quot;Coin Silver of the Province of the Confederation Belgium - Friesland&quot;.&nbsp; This format with variations for city issues stayed unchanged for the duration of lion daalder production.&nbsp; The reverse legend remains the same at that of the OP coin, &quot;Confidence in the Lord is not move&quot;.&nbsp; Additionally, the date, which used to be on the obverse, is now on the reverse, at around 12 o&#039;clock.&nbsp; There are dates in the 17th century for the city of Zwolle were the date appears on the reverse, in the field, separated in half by the rampant lion.</p><p><br /></p><p>Dav. 8815</p><p><br /></p><p>27.12 grams</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1467311[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The second coin is from 1652, city of Campen.</p><p><br /></p><p>The weight of the coin is 24.86 grams, well below the 27 grams normally expected.&nbsp; I think it is legit. It appears to have been struck on a thinner broad flan (43mm), possibly with lower grade silver.&nbsp;&nbsp; There is one test scratch on the reverse, to the lion&#039;s right.</p><p><br /></p><p>Given the relatively low silver content of these coins, at round .750, I have encountered low weight, official coins in the past.&nbsp; It seems that the officials in some mints were not above playing around with a coin&#039;s fineness and weight, much as what happened in colonial Spain, at the Potosi mint in the first half of the 17th century, where 8 reales cobs were systematically debased by assayers and other mint officials.&nbsp; That practice ended with the trial and execution of one assayer in 1649.</p><p><br /></p><p>Dav. 4879</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1467318[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>What do you think?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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