Lincoln One Cent Misprint????

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by JackieMagack, Jun 24, 2012.

  1. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Thanks for showing us your coin photos and thanks for these new photos of it. From your first photos in your first post I would have sworn that the reversed image was raised on the coin.
    from your new photos the image shows to be sunken in or incuse. this is what photos can do to us. If the reversed image is incuse on the coin then what Mike said was exactly right and it is still a great find expessialy from pocket change.
    it's possible someone has been told that this was only PMD and spent the coin.
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  3. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    You are off topic but I will reply anyway . I have only shown a very few of my coins on here and I don't remember ever begging for anyone's help. you are saying I'm continually bickering with others. I see that you and me have been on the CT form for the same amount of time . I have authored only 865 posts and you have authored 1398 posts , now who's doing the most bickering. we need to keep things on the topic and not worry about what others are doing and maybe we can learn things together.
  4. bobbeth87

    bobbeth87 Coin Collector

    Boooooo on the sarcasm and language (from the other post).

    Yeaaa on the find of this coin. Congrats!!!!
  5. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    I have to say that I have learned something from this thread. Sorry about jumping to the squeeze job theory.
  6. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Not to be a spoiler, but even if this is a genuine error instead of PMD(post-mint dammage), how much would it be worth and how much would it cost to have it "authenticated" by a TPG (third party grader)?
  7. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    If, as I suspect, your coin is normal weight, then it's quite possible that the bottom coin (the brockage-maker) was abormally thin as the result of being struck on a thin or split planchet. Such a coin would be weakly struck and would account for the incomplete nature of the brockage and the weak incuse details of Lincoln's head.

    An abnormally thin coin is more likely to remain behind in the striking chamber as it more easily evades the ejection finger.
  8. JackieMagack

    JackieMagack New Member

    my scales are not exact as I realized a minute ago, it only measures in 5 gram increments and i don't think that is very accurate when it comes to the weight of a Lincoln cent, when i have time, i'll travel into town and have it weighed on a more accurate device, when i do, i'll be sure to post it's weight compared to another of it's era.
  9. Numis-addict

    Numis-addict Addicted to coins

    And now I have a question. The theory of squweeze job has seemingly been abandoned. BUT, perhaps a ring of metal with the inside diameter just slightly smaller than a lincoln cent, with a sheet of metal over one end was made. Then the theoretical ring was placed over the obverse with the hollow part down, and another lincoln cent was added with the obverse to the first coin's reverse. Then the whole thing was stuck in a vise, or run over by a truck. The thing could have been off a bit, adding the train track thing silent was seeing. Just an obscure idea...:confused:
  10. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    It's not uncommon to put a piece of leather on one side of the coin getting the squeeze. That side comes away with its original appearance.
  11. JackieMagack

    JackieMagack New Member

    solid theories, both would make sense, but i'm holding out for the in-collar first strike brockage,.. what would be the best idea for me to get this coin graded, how much would it cost and who should i use to grade it(whats the best and most trusted company)?
  12. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    This is what I initially suspected, but Mike has pointed out some good points and solid facts.

  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I would be curious about the weight of the piece. When I first saw it I thought either brockage or squeeze job on a cent that had the back planed off. The reason for the second possibility was because the brockage is only the central device and a few letters close to it. A full centered brockage like this struck in the coinage press tends to impart the entire reversed design. The lower pressure of a squeeze job would only do the central images. But a squeeze job would leave the reverse of the original coin visible. One way to get around that would be to plane off the reverse before the squeeze. So I ask the weight.

    Interesting, hadn't considered the possibility of a thin planchet brockage maker. That mght give you just the central image but I would think only if it was thin enough that it only received a weak image when it was struck.

    Rascal the raised appearance is an optical illusion. Yes a counterbrockage would be raised, but it would not be reversed. (This was written before I saw the new images that clearly show it to be incuse.)
  14. JackieMagack

    JackieMagack New Member

    it weighs 3.1 grams by the way, i weighed a 1930 s, it came out to 3.3 grams if that helps anything
  15. Ralph62

    Ralph62 New Member

    i have a nickel i found in my pocket the nickel has a ring around edges on both sides and the inscription on both sides are cut half of is this a error and could this be worth anything (2008 d nickel)
  16. jpodles7

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  17. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Keep it protected in a holder & don't clean it!

    Hello JackieMagack,

    Somehow I didn't see your post until just now. You have posted a nice interesting coin. :thumb: Have you inspected the edge and accurately measured the diameter? If it was struck in the mint's collar die, then the 19 mm diameter will be very uniform and within a rather tight tolerance.
  18. JackieMagack

    JackieMagack New Member

    i don't have anything that measures mm accurately, but i will travel to a friends house to use a more accurate device of some sort.
  19. JackieMagack

    JackieMagack New Member

    When i mail this off to get authenticated and graded, how much should i have it insured for?
  20. JackieMagack

    JackieMagack New Member

  21. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I have never had any coins "authenticated" or graded by third party graders, but it can be an expensive proposition unless you belong to one of the societies or clubs that is doing the grading. Most grading (I think, but then again I might be wrong) is done by taking your coin to a dealer you trust, or that has been recommended by someone you trust, and have them to submit it. Perhaps people on CoinTalk could suggest dealers in your area of Ohio that could be trusted to handle the transaction for you and be honest in their apprasal of the situation.
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