Lincoln Cent Experts, get your diagnostic skills out...time to show them off!

Here it is blown up from the second pic. Cropped and sharpened, with blooming to lighten around the mint mark, and re-sized. No alterations of the actual image other than this.

I think it shows the die chip.

 

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Wish that I could superimpose this on your picture @Kasia but I can't with this phone.

 

The coin is worn down to about an F-15, if you look closely you can see the blob that was the die chip sitting in the upper serif, you can also make out the nick that is the notch in the upper serif. They don't look parallel because of the way the light is angled on the coin.

 

Die Pair 4.

 

Funny that you would say that. The wear that you mention is what I noticed first. But the inside of the rim close to worn devices seems to be unworn.

 

How did I miss this one. All look real to me although the 55 has been cleaned and I do not know the diagnostics well.

 

This is from ANA. In no case shall the serifs not be exactly parallel on a genuine coin if not it is altered.

 

This is one of my S VDBs, this one is Obverse 1, its a VF25, but even in this condition the serifs are smooshed, the die chip is almost a blob and the notch is losing clarity because of the wear the curves of the S are starting to lose some of that parallelness they had when they were MS., which is why the ops S appears as it does.

 

1922 no d was struck with 3 die pairs.

Die Pair #1
Obverse
Weak left-hand portion of LIBERTY
The word WE has virtually disappeared.
The T in TRUST is fairly strong, but the rest of the word is weak.
The last digit in the date, the 2, appears weaker than first 2.
Reverse
The lines in the wheat ears, both left and right, appear blended together.
There is a die crack coming out of the letter L in PLURIBUS, through the upper left portion of the O in ONE.

Die pair #2
The word LIBERTY is much stronger than on Die Pair # 1, and the entire motto, IN GOD WE TRUST, is visible, with the word TRUST much stronger.
Date area is much stronger, and the last digit in the date is stronger than the first three.

Reverse
Wheat ears are strong as is the entire reverse.
There is no die crack
If it is VG or above, lines in the wheat ears are defined.
The die pair 2 is made up of a worn obverse die and a new reverse die.

Die pair #3
The second 2 in the date is weaker than the first 2
Trust is sharper than IN GOD WE
The lower left portion of the O in One is flat across the bottom as if it were sitting on a wall.
There is great loss of detail in the lines of the wheat ears.
The reverse is rotated slightly to the 11o'clock position.

Ref. Detecting Counterfeit Coins by J.P.Martin

Edit to add. It appears by all indications to be die pair 2 except for the LIBERTY not being readable and weakness in the lines of the wheat ears to the east on the reverse. If it is graded VG or above both should be there.

 

4 die pairs;
Die Pair #4"The front of Lincoln's coat from about 4 o'clock to 5 o'clock
appears to merge into the rim whereas Dies 1-3 all have a
regular pronounced gap between the coat
and rim. This merging is responsible for Die 4's nickname,
"coattails." The reverse is noted for its weak high point detail,
similar to Die 1 and Die 3."
http://lincolncentresource.com/1922Ddievarieties.html

 

If I may I ask a question so I understand. There are two of each of these coins and you do not know if any of them are fake or real? I am not an expert in any fashion & I know very little of counterfeit coins. However each of the two sets look way to close to being the same coin with the exception of the last set where the second is brighter in color, I do not understand how two coins can be worn exactly the same. Then if they are counterfeit then how the heck did they do that so perfectly?

 

They are the same coin. Here is what he said in the OP;

 

Duh, ok I see now, thank you I had my blond moment. Ooops silly me, thank you.

 

Now that would be a real sweet deal for the owner
By the way, I like your learning cap statement. I thought it should read I have my learning cat on. Lol
4 cats own me. It is often a cat-tastrophe but we love each other. Life is glorious.

 

man, wish that these were slabbed tho =0/

I would be interested knowing the exact condition .... I ran across to many IT IS THIS STATE and it wasnt ...