Licinius London Mint rarity - AA VV GG

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  1. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    Between 311-313AD a pair of new mint marks were added to the coinage, PLN in exergue with a * first in the right field (311-312) and then in the left (312-313). During this time, the variety of reverse types increased significantly and there were some unusual legends introduced as well.

    Two of these legends, featuring Sol, were:

    COMITI AVGG NN - To the Companion of Our Emperors
    COMITI AA VV GG - To the Companion of the Emperors
    (LMCC, Cloke and Toone)

    Earlier in the year I added this example of Constanine, a common coin with the first legend:

    Constantine London 153.png
    LMCC 7.03.006
    23mm, 3.44g
    Ex. Paul Munro-Walker Collection, Roma Numismatics 07/19

    I immediately started looking for a COMITI AA VV GG reverse, but seeing that they were all rather rare I didn't hold out much hope.

    This cropped up on ebay recently and I snatched it up.

    Licinius Comiti AAVVGG.jpg LMCC 7.02.005
    23mm, 4.45g
    Ex. Lockdales

    Not the finest condition, and very difficult to photograph due to the glossy finish and uneven surfaces and toning, but definitely an example I'm happy top add to the growing London Mint collection.

    Feel free to share your Licinius coins, or your legend oddities.
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  3. tenbobbit

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    Calling @furryfrog02 who has a rare Constantine that has the Obverse legend variation & COMITI AVGG NN Reverse.
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  4. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    @thejewk ...Nice coins! I actually think the detail on the Lic is really quite nice! I've yet to add a London mint coin to my Lic collection but do like the portrait style....
    My very first Ancient was a Licinius I.....I was completely green and paid 35$ for it..I'd had it for about 6 months when a friend informed me that the Emperors name was 'mispelid'....Here she is....
    Licinius I (RIC VII#155 Arles)-Unlisted-
    Licinius I AE Follis 20mm/3.43gr (Emperors name Misspelled)
    Obverse-IMP LICINVS PF AVG- laureate, cuirassed bust right
    Reverse-REV SOLI INVICTO COMITI- Sol standing right, looking left, chlamys across chest and over his left arm, holding globe and raising right hand. C-S across fields
    Exergue-PARL- minted 313-318AD Arles
  5. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Constantine I
    AE Follis
    Struck circa 310-312 AD
    Obverse: IMP CONSTANTINVS P AVG, laureate and cuirassed bust right.
    Reverse: COMITI AVGG NN, Sol standing left, holding globe and whip, star to right. Mintmark PLN.

    Took me a bit to find it. It was hiding in FFIVN's collection :p
    Last edited: Jul 5, 2020
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  6. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark standing on the shoulders of giants Dealer

    Your obverse legend is IMP CONSTANTINVS P AVG. This legend is not listed in RIC for this series (in fact there are no long legends listed with IMP in RIC for this issue, though they have been discovered since), but Huvelin does list it as #26 and she also shows an example in the Boursies Hoard as #346.

    Huvelin, Helene. "Les Deux Emissions Londoniennes." NZ 101 (1990) 29-50.

    Stewartby, Lord. "Coins of the Mint of London from the Boursies Hoard (313/14)." Revue Numismatique 36 (1994) 90- 108.

    the articles are linked on this page--

    Your coin is also listed in the new book by Cloke and Toone, The London Mint of Constantius & Constantine as # 7.03.003
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  7. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    From the same series, but the PRINCIPI IVVENTVTIS type, cca. late 311-312:

    constantine I princ.JPG
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  8. thejewk

    thejewk Well-Known Member

    @Spaniard Ha, that's an excellent find. I wonder if the engraver noticed his mistake?

    @furryfrog02 That's a nice rarity you have there, congrats.

    @seth77 Nice coin. I don't have a PRINCIPI type yet, or that style of bust.
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