Licinius Junior

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  3. DonnaML

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    I recently bought my first coin of Licinius II, largely because I like the fact that his portrait actually makes him look like a small child; not much more than a toddler. Rather unusual for child Caesars except a few like Geta and Caracalla. I also like the expression on the bound captive's face!

    Licinius II Caesar, AE follis, Cyzicus Mint (1st Officina), AD 318-324. Obv. Helmeted and cuirassed bust left, holding round shield over left shoulder and spear over right shoulder, DN VAL LICIN LICINIVS NOB C / Rev. Jupiter standing facing, head left, chlamys over left shoulder, holding crowning Victory with right hand and eagle-tipped long scepter with left hand; at his feet to left, another eagle standing left, head right, holding wreath in beak; at his feet to right, bound captive with beard, seated right, head turned back to left; IOVI CONS-ERVATORI around; X/IIΓ in right field [mark of value?*]; in exergue, mintmark SMKA (Cyzicus, 1st Officina). 19 mm., 3.48 g., 12 h. RIC VII Cyzicus 18[A] at p. 646; Sear RCV IV 15409, Cohen 21. Purchased from London Ancient Coins, Feb. 2022. Reverse die match (see https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/licinius_II/_cyzicus_RIC_018_A.jpg) to example posted at Wildwinds,com, which is ex. CNG March 2015.

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    *See Sear RCV IV at p. 396 re the X/IIΓ in reverse right field: “It has been suggested that the curious numerical formula in the reverse field indicates a revaluation of the follis from 25 to 12 ½ denarii (cf. Carson, “Coins of the Roman Empire”, p. 167).” (Sear does not explain how the formula represents 12 ½ -- I understand that XII = 12, but not how Γ = ½ -- and I do not have access to Carson.) Other sources describe the “X” as a star (e.g., Roma Numismatics 2022 at https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8964547), and describe the “IIΓ” as either a “III” (see Gorny & Mosch 2015 at https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2379511, and CNG 2011 at https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1123276) or a II M (Mu) (see CNG 2015 at https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/licinius_II/_cyzicus_RIC_018_A.txt).

    Can anyone explain the meaning of the symbols in the reverse right field any better than the sources I've found?
     
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  4. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    X over II and an episemon - "The last sign is clearly an episemon, epigraphically employed for S(emis) also." (RIC VII p. 12) Semis literally means half, and the semis coin was valued at half an as
     
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  5. DonnaML

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    Thank you. So if I understand correctly, the sign after the II is not a gamma (Γ) but a lower-case mu (μ) -- which explains the sources describing that part of the formula as IIM -- and, according to RIC, a lower-case mu is a sign or symbol ("episemon") for a Semis or 1/2. So under this theory, the value of the coin supposedly = 12 1/2 denarii, not that the denarius was still being used as a denomination by then so far as I know.
     
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