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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8291173, member: 26430"]OP coin looks like it's a great one. Well preserved late Roman bronze coins like that can be wonderful.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've got a couple of Licinius' AE3s in my collection of "Barbarians, Captives, and Enemies" on Roman coins. For good measure, the second one below is Licinius II. The third one is (I believe) a barbarous imitation.</p><p><br /></p><p>Handsome looking Licinius & two captives and standard. Aside from the nice detail and surfaces, I liked this one for the (relatively) large flan (I love whenever the full border is visible):</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1465639[/ATTACH]</p><blockquote><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Roman Imperial. Licinius I AE Reduced Follis or Nummus</b> (3.17g, 21mm). Ticinum, 319-320.</p><p><b>Obv</b>: IMP LICINIVS AVG. Bust of Licinius, helmeted, cuirassed, right.</p><p><b>Rev</b>: VIRTVS EXERCIT / TT. Standard with VOT/XX inscribed on drapery, flanked by two seated captives.</p><p><b>Ref</b>: RIC (VII) 116; <a href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.7.tic.116" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.7.tic.116" rel="nofollow">OCRE (RIC 116)</a>.</p><p><b>Prov</b>: Ex Jesus Vico EA 11 (15 Dec 2020), 276</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>Aside from being from the Giovanni Dattari (1858-1923) collection, I really loved the detail on the (Sarmatian?) captive on the following coin's reverse: hands bound in back, depicted with usual “barbarian” features -- wild beard, baggy trousers, shirtless, and pointed Eastern cap (of Phrygian or Parthian style). I considered this a really lucky find when I saw it at Victor's Imperial Coins (his photo):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1465640[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p><b>Roman Imperial. Licinius II AE Reduced Follis or Nummus</b> (3.6g, 20 mm, 6h). Antioch mint, 317 – 320 CE.</p><p><b>Obv</b>: DN VAL LICIN LICINIVS NOB C. Bust of Licinius II, laureate, draped, left, holding sceptre in right hand and mappa in left hand.</p><p><b>Rev</b>: IOVI CONSERVATORI CAESS / H (right) / SMANT (exergue). Jupiter standing left holding Victory on globe and sceptre, bound captive to left.</p><p><b>Ref</b>: RIC (VII) 29; Sear RCV 15415; <a href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.7.anch.29" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.7.anch.29" rel="nofollow">OCRE (RIC 29)</a>.</p><p><b>Prov</b>: Ex-Giovanni Dattari (1858-1923) Collection of Late Roman Bronze Coins; CNG e-Auction 470 (17 June 2020), Lot 641 (part of); purchased from Victor’s Imperial Coins (Victor Clark, 6 February 2021).</p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>Last: An ironic example of a “barbarous imitation” of a Licinius II AE from Trier depicting “barbarian” captives (compare <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=licinius+captives+imit" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=licinius+captives+imit" rel="nofollow">some similar examples on acsearch</a>, esp. <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6640877" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6640877" rel="nofollow">the Leu e-10 example</a>; although most of those get the spelling of EXERCIT correct!)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1465641[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>These Bastien type Licinius confronted busts / captives AEs are fantastic -- definitely some of greatest LRBC captives types.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've spotted a few on the market since first learning of them, but haven't yet tried to get one. (For now, I've been admiring them in photos and the article cited, <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/42664667" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/42664667" rel="nofollow">available free on JSTOR for anyone interested</a>, though you have to do free registration if you don't have a library membership.)[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8291173, member: 26430"]OP coin looks like it's a great one. Well preserved late Roman bronze coins like that can be wonderful. I've got a couple of Licinius' AE3s in my collection of "Barbarians, Captives, and Enemies" on Roman coins. For good measure, the second one below is Licinius II. The third one is (I believe) a barbarous imitation. Handsome looking Licinius & two captives and standard. Aside from the nice detail and surfaces, I liked this one for the (relatively) large flan (I love whenever the full border is visible): [ATTACH=full]1465639[/ATTACH] [INDENT][B] Roman Imperial. Licinius I AE Reduced Follis or Nummus[/B] (3.17g, 21mm). Ticinum, 319-320. [B]Obv[/B]: IMP LICINIVS AVG. Bust of Licinius, helmeted, cuirassed, right. [B]Rev[/B]: VIRTVS EXERCIT / TT. Standard with VOT/XX inscribed on drapery, flanked by two seated captives. [B]Ref[/B]: RIC (VII) 116; [URL='http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.7.tic.116']OCRE (RIC 116)[/URL]. [B]Prov[/B]: Ex Jesus Vico EA 11 (15 Dec 2020), 276[/INDENT] Aside from being from the Giovanni Dattari (1858-1923) collection, I really loved the detail on the (Sarmatian?) captive on the following coin's reverse: hands bound in back, depicted with usual “barbarian” features -- wild beard, baggy trousers, shirtless, and pointed Eastern cap (of Phrygian or Parthian style). I considered this a really lucky find when I saw it at Victor's Imperial Coins (his photo): [ATTACH=full]1465640[/ATTACH] [INDENT][B]Roman Imperial. Licinius II AE Reduced Follis or Nummus[/B] (3.6g, 20 mm, 6h). Antioch mint, 317 – 320 CE. [B]Obv[/B]: DN VAL LICIN LICINIVS NOB C. Bust of Licinius II, laureate, draped, left, holding sceptre in right hand and mappa in left hand. [B]Rev[/B]: IOVI CONSERVATORI CAESS / H (right) / SMANT (exergue). Jupiter standing left holding Victory on globe and sceptre, bound captive to left. [B]Ref[/B]: RIC (VII) 29; Sear RCV 15415; [URL='http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.7.anch.29']OCRE (RIC 29)[/URL]. [B]Prov[/B]: Ex-Giovanni Dattari (1858-1923) Collection of Late Roman Bronze Coins; CNG e-Auction 470 (17 June 2020), Lot 641 (part of); purchased from Victor’s Imperial Coins (Victor Clark, 6 February 2021).[/INDENT] Last: An ironic example of a “barbarous imitation” of a Licinius II AE from Trier depicting “barbarian” captives (compare [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=licinius+captives+imit']some similar examples on acsearch[/URL], esp. [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6640877']the Leu e-10 example[/URL]; although most of those get the spelling of EXERCIT correct!) [ATTACH=full]1465641[/ATTACH] These Bastien type Licinius confronted busts / captives AEs are fantastic -- definitely some of greatest LRBC captives types. I've spotted a few on the market since first learning of them, but haven't yet tried to get one. (For now, I've been admiring them in photos and the article cited, [URL='https://www.jstor.org/stable/42664667']available free on JSTOR for anyone interested[/URL], though you have to do free registration if you don't have a library membership.)[/QUOTE]
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