Liberty Seated Quarter-Variety 3

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  1. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Here’s an 1854 which is a Variety 3. It has arrows at the date but no rays. This variety was only minted for 2 years. This is the highest mintage at of this variety at 12,380,000. It has bluish toning on the obverse through the stars and the date. No problems to speak of. She worked but not to hard.
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  3. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    Very nice, I still need one of those for the 19th century type set (which includes all 7 seated lib varieties)
    I've had a hard time finding seated lib quarters in xf/au grades that aren't priced throught he roof.. I've got 3 of the 7 so far 57 w/drapery, 76 w/motto and the 53 w/rays and arrows is still waiting on the next NGC submission... I will have all 7 before I'm done :D
     
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  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Just take your time and you’ll find them.
     
  5. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The 1873-4 With Arrows type is one of the toughest, and, for me, among the least interesting. The weight was slightly increased to bring it up to an even Metric weight number. The weight and composition of the silver coins would not change until the clad coinage came along in 1965.

    The year 1873 marked the beginning of an economic recession which kept the demand for new coins low. That explains the low mintages and scarcity of the 1873-4 With Arrows type coins today.

    The mintages for the 1853-5 With Arrows coins were high because the mint was forced to replace many of the coins that were in circulation at the time. The price of silver had gone up, relative to gold, because of the California gold rush. All of the silver coins, except the Silver Three Cent Piece, melted for more than their face value.
     
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  6. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Not clear to me why this variety is among the least interesting to you. I admit I am sometimes dense.
     
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  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I just figured to each his own but it’s in my collection and I like it. :)
     
  8. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    54 with arrows 57-9 and mid 1870s dates easy and even easy nice. Pre 1853 with nice skin very tough in vf or better. Civil war and post civil war dates really tough. High mintages in the mid 70s make those dates very available the 76 and 77cc are fun affordable Carson city dates. The 79-90
    Low mintage dates are readily available in high grade though as many were saved by collectors. The 1850s San Francisco and 70-74cc dates really really tough
     
  9. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    By the time I got this type, I was getting relative type coin fatigue. These coins are all expensive, and there was no compelling reason to issue them. It had something to do with slabs at finding internationally accepted coinages. Among the six types of Liberty Seated quarters or half dollars, this is my least favorite.
     
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  10. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Agreed they’re pricier than they deserve to be due to type collecting. Though not as bad as the no drapery
     
  11. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The No Drapery type is more historically important than the 1873-4 With Arrows type. The No Drapery was the first design for the Seated Liberty motif that was executed by Christian Gobrecht. Gobrecht's designs were quickly replaced by the work of Robert Ball Hughes. The work by Hughes not as attractive in my opinion as you can see from these dimes.

    No Drapery Type

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    With Drapery Type

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    The smallest amount of change was made to the half dollar. The No Drapery type was made for only part of 1839, and that coin is scarce and expensive.

    No Drapery Type Half Dollar

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    With Drapery Type Half Dollar

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    There is an 1838 "partial drapery" dime listed in the Red Book. That is only a clash mark, not a true type or die variety.
     
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  12. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Agreed totally on the no drapery being far better of a design. They covered her up after feeding her beer chocolate and cheesecake for 6 months
     
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