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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 913936, member: 112"]I guess what you're trying to do Marhsall is establish various die marriages. But dies mariages are not varieties per se, at least not in the common sense of the word. To be classified as a variety there usually has be some difference of note. Like an RPM, RPD, OMM, DDO, DDR etc etc. The diagnostics you are pointing out work to help establish authenticity, but again it really wouldn't be classified as a variety.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the ghost images you mentioned. They are not evidence of a previous strike. But rather evidence of a coin being struck with very worn dies. That further backs up the die minatge estimate. </p><p><br /></p><p>Those ghost images are often found on coins with high mintages like Lincoln cents. The ghost image is actually transferred to the opposing die through the planchets by repeated use. But occasionally you find them on coins like these too where only a few sets of dies were used, perhaps over-used would be a better term.</p><p><br /></p><p>One other thing, typically the numismatic community, at least the powers that be within the community, will not accept studies like this based on images, even very good images. They insist on such studies being conducted with the coins in hand. This is because pictures have a way of distorting the way a coin looks because of angles, lighting, focus etc.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example, I know of a member of this forum, a YN, who did just such a study as you doing on the '32-S quarter and found several varieties, and varieties of the type that are readily recognized as varieties, not die marriages. Seeing the evidence myself I was 100% convinced of its accuracy. But the numismatic community, several recognized experts and the coin magazines refused to accept his work because he did it based on pictures, and a few examples he was able obtain for in hand examination. Of course I rather think the youmg man's work was disavowed because here was a YN finding what the so called experts had missed for decades. They don't like being one-upped like that by YNs and nobodys. So the work was squashed and failed to be recognized. But I know of it, and I still have the evidence of it to back him up.</p><p><br /></p><p>Just be aware of that while you continue what you are doing.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 913936, member: 112"]I guess what you're trying to do Marhsall is establish various die marriages. But dies mariages are not varieties per se, at least not in the common sense of the word. To be classified as a variety there usually has be some difference of note. Like an RPM, RPD, OMM, DDO, DDR etc etc. The diagnostics you are pointing out work to help establish authenticity, but again it really wouldn't be classified as a variety. As for the ghost images you mentioned. They are not evidence of a previous strike. But rather evidence of a coin being struck with very worn dies. That further backs up the die minatge estimate. Those ghost images are often found on coins with high mintages like Lincoln cents. The ghost image is actually transferred to the opposing die through the planchets by repeated use. But occasionally you find them on coins like these too where only a few sets of dies were used, perhaps over-used would be a better term. One other thing, typically the numismatic community, at least the powers that be within the community, will not accept studies like this based on images, even very good images. They insist on such studies being conducted with the coins in hand. This is because pictures have a way of distorting the way a coin looks because of angles, lighting, focus etc. For example, I know of a member of this forum, a YN, who did just such a study as you doing on the '32-S quarter and found several varieties, and varieties of the type that are readily recognized as varieties, not die marriages. Seeing the evidence myself I was 100% convinced of its accuracy. But the numismatic community, several recognized experts and the coin magazines refused to accept his work because he did it based on pictures, and a few examples he was able obtain for in hand examination. Of course I rather think the youmg man's work was disavowed because here was a YN finding what the so called experts had missed for decades. They don't like being one-upped like that by YNs and nobodys. So the work was squashed and failed to be recognized. But I know of it, and I still have the evidence of it to back him up. Just be aware of that while you continue what you are doing.[/QUOTE]
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