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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;RonSanderson, post: 3788792, member: 77413&quot;]I think one reason the fields look so satiny, but without what is strictly a &quot;cartwheel&quot; shape to the luster, lies in this quote <a href="https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-explorer/silver-commemoratives-1892-1954-pscid-71/1925-s-california-50c-ms-coinid-19281" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-explorer/silver-commemoratives-1892-1954-pscid-71/1925-s-california-50c-ms-coinid-19281" rel="nofollow">from the NGC web site</a>.</p><p><br /></p><blockquote><p><font size="2"><span style="color: #0080ff">The 1925 California Jubilee Half Dollar was struck in commemoration of the state’s 75th anniversary. The San Francisco Citizen’s Advisory committee, headed by future mayor Angelo J. Rossi, was the organization which spearheaded the push for the production of the coin. At the time, commemoratives were already beginning to become a sore point for Mint officials. In fact, the coin might not have even been made at all had it not been for President Calvin Coolidge personally endorsing two separate commemoratives for Vermont. The California Jubilee Commemorative was slipped into the bill for those two coins, which passed on February 24, 1925.</span></font></p><p><font size="2"><span style="color: #0080ff"><br /></span></font></p><p><font size="2"><span style="color: #0080ff">The committee then set to work finding a designer for the coin. They eventually asked local well-renowned sculptor Jo Mora to design a coin that would help capture the spirit of the state’s Diamond Jubilee. He employed two symbolic motifs: a Gold Rush prospector for the obverse and a grizzly bear on the reverse.</span> <span style="color: #ff00ff">An interesting touch that Mora made was to ensure that the fields of the coin remained unpolished, leaving the boldly textured surface just as it was on the sculptor’s model.</span></font></p><p><br /></p></blockquote><p><br /></p><p>It&#039;s definitely surprising, but I have been making offers on coins in details slabs and nobody else bids on them. Of course I inspect the photos scrupulously first, but, still, I have gotten the impression that mistakes are made in this area. Or, there is damage, but it is so obscure that they ought to have dropped the coin a grade, but not from MS 67 to the equivalent of MS60.</p><p><br /></p><p>Example 1: A 1924 Standing Liberty quarter that was sold as PCGS Unc Details (92 - Cleaned). I garnered a number of opinions <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/gtg-1924-standing-liberty.330730/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/gtg-1924-standing-liberty.330730/">on this thread</a>, but the consensus was that the surfaces retain all the delicate structure and detail from a fresh die (it doesn&#039;t even have flow lines), and that only some variations in light dispersion may have made one spot look cleaned. I paid $118 and I think it is worth $1500 if it is really MS65. At MS 66 FH it&#039;s $2550.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1011879[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Example 2: A 1917 Walking Liberty half. It is marked as PCGS Unc Details (Machine Wrap Damage). I paid $112.50. Eventually, with much of CoinTalk examining the coin (see <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/do-you-ever-buy-details-coins.345209/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/do-you-ever-buy-details-coins.345209/">Do you ever buy &quot;details&quot; coins?</a>), we were able to locate a tiny mark parallel to the reverse rim at the 8:30 position. I just looked again and cannot find the mark with the naked eye. If this straight graded at MS65 it would be a $1150 coin. At MS 66 it&#039;s $3150. And with this toning, who knows?</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1011880[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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