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<p>[QUOTE="RonSanderson, post: 3331363, member: 77413"]Let's get an impression of this coin with lovely reflective surfaces and tons of luster. It is really bright and brilliant, more than I can capture.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]882776[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>And then take a look at a closeup of the surfaces.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]882777[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>The horizontal scratches right near the bottom of the photo show white at the top and gray at the bottom. Since this is lit from the top edge of the coin, this means they are raised above the surface - almost like catching the rising sun. So they are incuse on the die, and are from some intense cleaning of the die.</p><p><br /></p><p>The face is also heavily scratched (not to the naked eye, though) but those lines are not continuations of the lines on the fields. If there were continuous lines from the fields to the devices I would call it harshly cleaned. Instead, we can call the die recently polished. In fact, it looks like it has been reworked enough to lessen the sharpness of the hair near the ear.</p><p><br /></p><p>Just to stir the pot, exactly why is it we accept harsh cleaning / polishing if it was done to the die in the mint, but not if it was done by a collector later in time? I don't see all that much difference between a scratch that is incuse and one that is raised. Just something to think about, is all. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie93" alt=":troll:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie59" alt=":joyful:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie101" alt=":woot:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="RonSanderson, post: 3331363, member: 77413"]Let's get an impression of this coin with lovely reflective surfaces and tons of luster. It is really bright and brilliant, more than I can capture. [ATTACH=full]882776[/ATTACH] And then take a look at a closeup of the surfaces. [ATTACH=full]882777[/ATTACH] The horizontal scratches right near the bottom of the photo show white at the top and gray at the bottom. Since this is lit from the top edge of the coin, this means they are raised above the surface - almost like catching the rising sun. So they are incuse on the die, and are from some intense cleaning of the die. The face is also heavily scratched (not to the naked eye, though) but those lines are not continuations of the lines on the fields. If there were continuous lines from the fields to the devices I would call it harshly cleaned. Instead, we can call the die recently polished. In fact, it looks like it has been reworked enough to lessen the sharpness of the hair near the ear. Just to stir the pot, exactly why is it we accept harsh cleaning / polishing if it was done to the die in the mint, but not if it was done by a collector later in time? I don't see all that much difference between a scratch that is incuse and one that is raised. Just something to think about, is all. :troll: :joyful: :woot:[/QUOTE]
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