Is that in a problem-free holder? That type of red and blue would certainly be suspect as AT for that coin/that date etc. It looks like there was some natural toning on the coin, hence the pull-away toning on the date but then there's "fresher" toning elsewhere, possibly eliminating any pull-away toning that would have been on the stars etc. Pretty coin and nice photography though! Just some red flags.
Yep the toning is unusual, but then I do not follow the older silvers much. The very dark blue bespeaks of an oxide of an acidic nature, the red/ yellowish of typical sulphides. Interesting, what sort of a holder is it in??However, could you share with me (us), your photography set-up??? Please please??
The coin is not in a holder . . . at least not yet. The blue should actually be a bit more of a sea-green in the photos, and the red on the obverse is a little too deep . . . probably too saturated. Forgive me for rushing. I'll have to refine that a bit more. Pullaway can be reliable for identifying original toning where it exists, but its absence may not always be indicative of secondary toning. In fact, it is unusual for a coin to exhibit pullaway all of the way around, mainly because it is unusual for the catalyst and the coin to be well-centered to each other. In this case there is indeed pullaway at stars 11, 12 & 13, but it is less noticeable there than at the date. Notice how the pullaway at the date thins out, from its widest at the second 8 to the narrowest at the 1. It similarly disappears from star 13 up to star 10. This is very natural looking to me.
On that deep blue, here are a few other "toned" specimens, off EBAY, the inky blue is seen on the second one down (an 1824). But it is kind of spooky to me. I like yours better. Toning flakes off due to a variety of reasons: environmental temp. changes, alkaline or acidic atmospheres, minute debris on coin, what touched the coins surface in the past, and of course the holder (being dropped, etc) may impact the toning and its flaking. Excessive and quick heat and then a quenching can also pop off toning areas. Or a quick freeze.
I know my photos are improving daily, and it probably looks like I've bought something magical to achieve these results, but I am really just a novice at this. If you must know, I just shoot a lot of photos and select the best from them. It's more work than I'd like to do, but I want good results. As for the equipment, I use a Nikon D50 with Tokina 100mm F2.8 Macro lens on a 24" copy stand, and two 100W GE Reveal halogen bulbs in a couple of old Dazor medical examination lamps. I set the coins on a grey card to automatically get my reference for white balance into the background of the photo, and I touch up the photos with Photoshop if necessary. I still have to acquire another item for very precisely angling coins when trying to shift the glare off of coins in holders. I'll try to remember to let all know how that works out. - Mike
Okay, but the photographic set up, especially light type and their positions and diffusion types. Thanks.
Thank you. When the coin is raw (out of its holder) the angling is much easier, using props etc. I must say your work pays off. I too rely on Photoshop, as regardless of the type and temp lamps I use, I never get the white balance perfect. I have used lots of photoediting software over the years, and Photoshop is the one I turn to most. I also like "Faststone Image Viewer". It is free and works like a charm. It gives me photo data (JPEG TIF types etc), it allows me to compare and zoom SIDE by SIDE, it archives files in an excellent viewer format wherein I can see hundreds or thousands of thumbnails. Plus it allows for lossless rotation. When I need to find an image, I turn to Faststone. I also use it to download from my camera (Nikon CoolPix), via a USB cable. Your photos are great, my friend. In some cases a bit of "glare" can add sparkle, that is a challenge for me. many of my shots are rather flat, as I really diffuse the light, on most coins. Again thanks for the information, and beautiful coins!! Oh you can download for free "Faststone Image Viewer" from my website, navigate to the "Softwares" section. You will enjoy it!! (Windows OS) www:Biblical-data.org/softwares.html
That's an awesome looking coin. Where do people find stuff like this? Is it usually passed down through family?
This coin belongs to a friend of mine who has collected for many decades. As concerns finding such material, when I was younger and less experienced, I never got to see much material like this. Now, I get offers out of the blue, mainly because collectors recognize that I have in inventory a fair number of coins similar to what they collect.
A nice large roman bronze I got for just $17 shipped. Galerius (305 - 311 A.D.) Æ Follis O: GAL VAL MAXIMIANVS NOB CA ES, laureate bust right. R: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, Genius standing half left, modius on head, naked but for chlamys over left shoulder, pouring liquor from patera in right, cornucopia in left, star left, A right, SM SD in ex. Serdica Mint, 304 305 A.D. 28mm 11.8g RIC VI RIC 4b