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  1. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Can you get a good closeup of the mintmark? That sort of looks like an RPM.
     
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  3. Paul_62

    Paul_62 Just takin' it one day at a time



    Here's a couple images, hopefully they're good enough. Tell me please what makes you think it's an RPM...

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  4. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Looks like a minor rotated (maybe tilted) RPM. I see split serifs. Nice one.
     
  5. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Small Date 1960-D Lincoln Cent DDO-001 ! This one also has a Cud Error on the left lower side of Lincoln's Memorial A016 - 20130731_051946 (2).jpg A018 - 20130731_052249 (2).jpg A009 - 20130813_163840 (2).jpg A011 - 20130813_164238 (2).jpg A013 - 20130813_165243 (2).jpg
     
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  6. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    1959 Lincoln Cent ! This one is DDO-001 and 002 combine A020 - 20130731_052624 (2).jpg A021 - 20130731_052945 (2).jpg A001 - 20130814_062231 (2).jpg A003 - 20130814_062321 (2).jpg A005 - 20130814_062455 (2).jpg A009 - 20130814_062956 (2).jpg A011 - 20130814_063343 (2).jpg
     
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  7. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Rick, it's impossible for a coin to have a combination 2 different doubled die listings on the same coin. You can't have a combination of die 1 and die 2 on the obverse of 1 coin, because they are physiclly 2 DIFFERENT dies.
    As to your "small over large date", that isn't it either. It's a normal small date.
     
  8. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    If I am not mistaken Morgan Dollars Do.N.C.
     
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  9. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    You should change your name sir, it all makes " CENTS " now, thats non cents !! lol !!! I guess you never heard of combos on vams sir, keep in mind, both errors can be found on this coin, photos don't lie !!!!!
     
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  10. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Thats just what I told him, he needs to go back to the roll searchers blog, where he came from !!! lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  11. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    But 1DO-001 and 1DO-002 are physically 2 different obverse dies used to strike cents. How can they be combined?
     
  12. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Easy, later stages of one of thoses dies ! Thats why all ddos & ddrs come in stages ! Heres a 1963 with the same kind of error A009 - 20130731_050712 (2).jpg A012 - 20130731_050920 (2).jpg A001 - 20130814_063820 (2).jpg A003 - 20130814_063919 (2).jpg A005 - 20130814_064139 (2).jpg A007 - 20130814_064345 (2).jpg A009 - 20130814_064625 (2).jpg
     
  13. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Ok, you're talking about die stages, but esrlier you said "DDO-001 and DDO-002 combined". Your coin is neither a combination of doubled dies, nor a doubled die at all. It's die deterioration.
     
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  14. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Hey non cents a 1960-D small date DDO-001 comes in four different stages, and their looking for the fifth stage as we speak !!!!!
     
  15. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    No sense of fighting, its not worth it ! Keep up the hunt, thats why were all here !!!!
     
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  16. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "stage" of a die is relative to it's "life" during the coining operation. What this means, is that a fresh, brand new die will produce a strong, sharp image. Call that Stage 1.
    As the die is used, it goes through required "on the press" cleaning which may impart die scratches to the die thereby creating "Stage 2"
    As the die continues to wear, the die scratches get compressed out of the die and the details begin to look mushy with rounded edges.
    Throw some machine doubling into the mix and the devices on the die begin to open up.
    During the last stages of the dies life, ghosted or doubled images begin to appear.

    No where in the life of the die, is it removed from the coining press and "rehubbed".

    The ONY possible way that a die could carry two different varieties would have to have occurred during the hubbing process where a DDO-001 hub were impressed into a DDO-002 die (or vice versa) on the second or subsequent impressions.

    However, such a scenario would also produce a series doubled die meaning that the initial doubling occurred "on the hub" AND every DDO-001 or DDO-002 coin would be a combination of the two different varieties.

    As for the Morgans, please list what "double" VAMs you are referring to that are NOT related to die state such as polishing, cracks, scratches, rusted dies, or die breaks.
     
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  17. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Its not a question of "fighting" unless your the one fighting) as much as its a question of "understanding" how such a scenario might occur.
     
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  18. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    1921-s I graded one a time ago, if you need the vam, let me know
     
  19. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Rick, don't mistake my words for a fight. I'm just clarifying some facts so that when newbies read this thread, they don't mistake your coin for an actual doubled die.
     
  20. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    A little extra metal, never hurt anybody A006 - 20130814_134158 (2).jpg A007 - 20130814_134357 (2).jpg A001 - 20130814_061611 (2).jpg A002 - 20130814_061723 (2).jpg
     
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  21. LindeDad

    LindeDad His Walker.

    Turned out it was not what I hoped it to be and had to return it.:(
     
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