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<p>[QUOTE="BRandM, post: 2942329, member: 22729"]I posted this counterstamp a week or so ago, and with the help of two CTrs (ExoMan and JBK) I was able to pretty much nail down an attribution. Thanks, guys. Your help is much appreciated.</p><p><br /></p><p>The cross on the coin is what's known as a saltire, or X-shaped cross. It's commonly known as the Cross of St. Andrew's, because when Andrew the Apostle (the patron saint of Scotland) was crucified by the Romans in 60 A.D. he was tied to one in place of the standard shape. This would speak to it being Scottish in origin, but there's another possibility.</p><p><br /></p><p>The saltire also has connections to St. Patrick, the patron saint of Ireland. Although commonly used in Ireland for centuries, it's current form only came to the forefront in 1783 with the founding of the Order of Saint Patrick, a chivalric order. This then also suggests the stamp may be Irish.</p><p><br /></p><p>The figure is likely either a representation of St. Patrick or St. Andrew. The maker was not highly skilled, so the figure is probably "generic" in nature as it doesn't resemble either one. It's basically a stick-figure in robes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Because of the positioning of the stamp heavily struck over the bust of King George lll, it's almost certainly a protest coin. Very little different than the IRA, UVF, etc. stamps of the modern day. </p><p><br /></p><p>My feeling is that it's origin is Irish rather than Scottish. While both countries had significant rebellions against English rule going back centuries, the Irish were more likely than the Scottish to express their rage in this manner. I know of no expression like this where it's origin can be definitively traced to Scotland. There are many, many examples of Irish protest coins, however.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks again to everyone who helped me with this attribution. </p><p><br /></p><p>Bruce</p><p>[ATTACH=full]716699[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BRandM, post: 2942329, member: 22729"]I posted this counterstamp a week or so ago, and with the help of two CTrs (ExoMan and JBK) I was able to pretty much nail down an attribution. Thanks, guys. Your help is much appreciated. The cross on the coin is what's known as a saltire, or X-shaped cross. It's commonly known as the Cross of St. Andrew's, because when Andrew the Apostle (the patron saint of Scotland) was crucified by the Romans in 60 A.D. he was tied to one in place of the standard shape. This would speak to it being Scottish in origin, but there's another possibility. The saltire also has connections to St. Patrick, the patron saint of Ireland. Although commonly used in Ireland for centuries, it's current form only came to the forefront in 1783 with the founding of the Order of Saint Patrick, a chivalric order. This then also suggests the stamp may be Irish. The figure is likely either a representation of St. Patrick or St. Andrew. The maker was not highly skilled, so the figure is probably "generic" in nature as it doesn't resemble either one. It's basically a stick-figure in robes. Because of the positioning of the stamp heavily struck over the bust of King George lll, it's almost certainly a protest coin. Very little different than the IRA, UVF, etc. stamps of the modern day. My feeling is that it's origin is Irish rather than Scottish. While both countries had significant rebellions against English rule going back centuries, the Irish were more likely than the Scottish to express their rage in this manner. I know of no expression like this where it's origin can be definitively traced to Scotland. There are many, many examples of Irish protest coins, however. Thanks again to everyone who helped me with this attribution. Bruce [ATTACH=full]716699[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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