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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;PaddyB, post: 2462877, member: 40017&quot;]Thanks for all that Bruce. Yes the Cumberland medal is very interesting and takes us back to a sorry patch of history. One other snippet on this - the flower &quot;Sweet William&quot; was named after the Duke of Cumberland as he was deemed a hero in England.&nbsp; In Scotland the flower is known as &quot;Stinking Billy&quot; even today!</p><p><br /></p><p>The Toogood medal is from a family seed supplier in Southampton - probably mid 20th century. As you say a pity it was not engraved but it seems few were - searching on the net I can find plenty of blank examples and none engraved. EG: <a href="http://artemis-antiques.gr/en/medals/217-toogood-sons-southampton-estd-1815-awarded-for-excellence.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://artemis-antiques.gr/en/medals/217-toogood-sons-southampton-estd-1815-awarded-for-excellence.html" rel="nofollow">http://artemis-antiques.gr/en/medals/217-toogood-sons-southampton-estd-1815-awarded-for-excellence.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>The South African pond is of course a brass copy. They seem to have been produced in quite large quantities - possibly as gaming tokens. I have seen a dozen or more over the last 20 years.</p><p><br /></p><p>The little black plaque is the most enigmatic. The metal is too hard for lead or Pewter. Could be well toned bronze? Could be Silver, but I don&#039;t want to damage the patina to find out. The portrait looks like Queen Anne to me and certainly many curios were made with her head on, both during her reign and subsequently. More research needed![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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