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<p>[QUOTE="ExoMan, post: 2459435, member: 72588"]Bruce wrote ..... <i>"Circulating coins, whether counterstamped or not, have obvious value and are accepted in commerce. I think the difference, to me at least, is once a coin is stamped, the stamp becomes the main focus. In that regard, it becomes a token because the issuer intends to convey a message to someone for some reason (political, advertising, personal, etc.). With some exceptions, the substrate it's stamped on (coin, token, tag,) is of lesser importance."</i></p><p><br /></p><p>Good Morning, Bruce, my Folger friend. Go easy on those donuts!</p><p><br /></p><p>I know I'm in the minority when it comes to the views of the big guns on this coin/token issue as regards counterstamps. Rich Hartzog is also in the "token camp." I recall once reading something he wrote on the subject that sounded quite opinionated.</p><p><br /></p><p>From my humble perspective, this all boils down to one's point of view, more so than the object, itself. Does a tattoo define the person? It can tell us something about the wearer, just as a counterstamp tells us about the coin. Simply stated, I'm of the opinion that the coin/token issue isn't an either/or situation. A coin is a coin, is a coin, as I see it. Its importance depends entirely on the perspective of the holder, the user. It reflects, rather than embodies whatever attributes can be ascribed; this, akin to a tattoo.</p><p><br /></p><p>I surely don't have a problem with someone calling attention to the token use of a coin or, for that matter, the monetary use of a token. Yet, this seems to be more of an issue for many collectors than it is for me. I'd liken this issue to those collectors who cringe when one refers to a cent as a penny. A rose by any other name, my friend ...</p><p><br /></p><p>Time for a refill ... Folgers. Happy 4th !!![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ExoMan, post: 2459435, member: 72588"]Bruce wrote ..... [I]"Circulating coins, whether counterstamped or not, have obvious value and are accepted in commerce. I think the difference, to me at least, is once a coin is stamped, the stamp becomes the main focus. In that regard, it becomes a token because the issuer intends to convey a message to someone for some reason (political, advertising, personal, etc.). With some exceptions, the substrate it's stamped on (coin, token, tag,) is of lesser importance."[/I] Good Morning, Bruce, my Folger friend. Go easy on those donuts! I know I'm in the minority when it comes to the views of the big guns on this coin/token issue as regards counterstamps. Rich Hartzog is also in the "token camp." I recall once reading something he wrote on the subject that sounded quite opinionated. From my humble perspective, this all boils down to one's point of view, more so than the object, itself. Does a tattoo define the person? It can tell us something about the wearer, just as a counterstamp tells us about the coin. Simply stated, I'm of the opinion that the coin/token issue isn't an either/or situation. A coin is a coin, is a coin, as I see it. Its importance depends entirely on the perspective of the holder, the user. It reflects, rather than embodies whatever attributes can be ascribed; this, akin to a tattoo. I surely don't have a problem with someone calling attention to the token use of a coin or, for that matter, the monetary use of a token. Yet, this seems to be more of an issue for many collectors than it is for me. I'd liken this issue to those collectors who cringe when one refers to a cent as a penny. A rose by any other name, my friend ... Time for a refill ... Folgers. Happy 4th !!![/QUOTE]
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