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<p>[QUOTE="BRandM, post: 2453754, member: 22729"]I just picked up a small collection of Irish political counterstamps on eBay. These date to the Troubles era (1969 / 1998) during probably the worst years of the sectarian violence in Northern Ireland. The conflict between the Catholic (Nationalists) and Protestant (Loyalists) sides dates back seven or eight hundred years, but the nearly 30 years of the Troubles is the most violent and prolonged period in the sad history of the country. It's not only about religion, but about loyalty as well. The Loyalist's goal is for Northern Ireland to remain as part of the UK, while Nationalists wish to reunite the independent Republic of Ireland with Northern Ireland and make her independent of Britain under Catholic rule.</p><p><br /></p><p>Counterstamping of both Irish and English coins with political messages was very commonly done by both sides, particularly in the 1970s and 1980s. I've researched, cataloged, and collected these pieces for a number of years now and have nearly 200 examples in my collection. These two examples are from the small group I acquired from the UK.</p><p><br /></p><p>The "UDA / UVF/ 1690" is struck on a 1963 Eire (Ireland) Florin. Both the UVF (Ulster Volunteer Force) and the UDA (Ulster Defence Association) are Loyalist paramilitaries. Though separate organizations, they're very closely aligned. While both have committed extreme acts of violence, the UDA many times claimed responsibility for not only their atrocities, but for those of the UVF as well. The UVF liked to claim that they were mostly a political entity in the style of the Nationalist's organization, Sinn Fein. They weren't.</p><p><br /></p><p>The date 1690 struck over the coin's date is a major point of celebration for Loyalists. It's the year that the Battle of the Boyne was fought. That victory solidified Protestant rule in Britain.</p><p><br /></p><p>The second coin, stamped "Sons of KAI / WOG" is a slogan I've never seen before. KAI, meaning "Kill all Irish," was a violent Protestant young gang that operated as one of the Tartan gangs in Rathcoole, Co. Antrim in the 1970s. They were Loyalists, but also equal opportunity thugs who would attack or intimidate Catholics if they saw fit to. The Sons of KAI is a modern Irish flute band with ties to the gang from the 70s. I don't know when it as initially organized, but it did disband at some point prior to 2006. When they regrouped that year, some of the new members had ties to the old Rathcoole KAI. "Wog" is a derogatory term for an Irish person. </p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks for looking. I post more later if anyone shows interest in then.</p><p><br /></p><p>Bruce[ATTACH=full]512971[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]512973[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]512974[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BRandM, post: 2453754, member: 22729"]I just picked up a small collection of Irish political counterstamps on eBay. These date to the Troubles era (1969 / 1998) during probably the worst years of the sectarian violence in Northern Ireland. The conflict between the Catholic (Nationalists) and Protestant (Loyalists) sides dates back seven or eight hundred years, but the nearly 30 years of the Troubles is the most violent and prolonged period in the sad history of the country. It's not only about religion, but about loyalty as well. The Loyalist's goal is for Northern Ireland to remain as part of the UK, while Nationalists wish to reunite the independent Republic of Ireland with Northern Ireland and make her independent of Britain under Catholic rule. Counterstamping of both Irish and English coins with political messages was very commonly done by both sides, particularly in the 1970s and 1980s. I've researched, cataloged, and collected these pieces for a number of years now and have nearly 200 examples in my collection. These two examples are from the small group I acquired from the UK. The "UDA / UVF/ 1690" is struck on a 1963 Eire (Ireland) Florin. Both the UVF (Ulster Volunteer Force) and the UDA (Ulster Defence Association) are Loyalist paramilitaries. Though separate organizations, they're very closely aligned. While both have committed extreme acts of violence, the UDA many times claimed responsibility for not only their atrocities, but for those of the UVF as well. The UVF liked to claim that they were mostly a political entity in the style of the Nationalist's organization, Sinn Fein. They weren't. The date 1690 struck over the coin's date is a major point of celebration for Loyalists. It's the year that the Battle of the Boyne was fought. That victory solidified Protestant rule in Britain. The second coin, stamped "Sons of KAI / WOG" is a slogan I've never seen before. KAI, meaning "Kill all Irish," was a violent Protestant young gang that operated as one of the Tartan gangs in Rathcoole, Co. Antrim in the 1970s. They were Loyalists, but also equal opportunity thugs who would attack or intimidate Catholics if they saw fit to. The Sons of KAI is a modern Irish flute band with ties to the gang from the 70s. I don't know when it as initially organized, but it did disband at some point prior to 2006. When they regrouped that year, some of the new members had ties to the old Rathcoole KAI. "Wog" is a derogatory term for an Irish person. Thanks for looking. I post more later if anyone shows interest in then. Bruce[ATTACH=full]512971[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]512973[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]512974[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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