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<p>[QUOTE="Larry Moran, post: 1181523, member: 4580"]"Scarce" means from 75-200 struck. I suspect there were many more pieces manufactured. I think of them as relatively Common.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is not actually a 'token' intended for circulation, but seems more a medalet.</p><p><br /></p><p>The medalets were suspended on a peony root necklace. I'm not surprised that the root did not survive until now.</p><p>I have never seen an example of the peony root necklace for these medalets.</p><p>A child would surely chew or mouth the token and not just the necklace. They may have been passed down in families. </p><p><br /></p><p>I have seen quite a few examples that were not drilled. Unlike your example, many examples were pre-drilled </p><p>to suspend on a necklace.</p><p><br /></p><p>It's also possible that numerous unholed copies were struck for collectors. </p><p>I would bet that they were copied, so perhaps some unholed examples are copies (or restrikes).</p><p><br /></p><p>Value for the <u>copper</u> version is about $20 in F-VF or so, around $40 in EF. </p><p>I would say your example should grade <b>Good Details, Damaged and Altered.</b></p><p>Starburst scratches and rim damage which show under magnification on yours detract from value. </p><p><br /></p><p>You can find some additional information in these linked pages...</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.napoleonicmedals.org/coins/dh268.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.napoleonicmedals.org/coins/dh268.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.napoleonicmedals.org/coins/dh268.htm</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.napoleonicmedals.org/coins/brit95-20.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.napoleonicmedals.org/coins/brit95-20.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.napoleonicmedals.org/coins/brit95-20.htm</a></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.abccoinsandtokens.com/DH.Middlesex.0268.001.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.abccoinsandtokens.com/DH.Middlesex.0268.001.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.abccoinsandtokens.com/DH.Middlesex.0268.001.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Per Medical History, 1990, 34: 268-293</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>THE ANODYNE NECKLACE: A QUACK REMEDY</p><p>AND ITS PROMOTION</p><p>by</p><p>FRANCIS DOHERTY </p><p><br /></p><p>"... Any parent who could afford</p><p>the price of a necklace, <u>five shillings</u> even in 1709 <i>(footnote 8</i>), was the kind of parent who could provide </p><p>environmental conditions for the child better than the average for the time.."</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>(footnote) 8 <i> That five shillings represented some two weeks' wages for a footman, 120 dishes of coffee in a coffee</i></p><p><i>house, or a gallon of claret, for example.</i></p><p><br /></p><p>===================</p><p><br /></p><p><b>My NOTES:</b> Surely by the 1790's the cost of such a necklace would be higher. </p><p>One shilling = 12 pence. 20 shillings = 1 pound.</p><p><br /></p><p>Generally speaking, Conder Tokens were produced between 1787-1797. The are a few later exceptions in D&H, </p><p>but I believe Bill told me none were struck after 1802. I have never really searched D&H to find the last date included.</p><p>But if you see dates like 1811 or 1841 they are not Conder Tokens.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Larry Moran, post: 1181523, member: 4580"]"Scarce" means from 75-200 struck. I suspect there were many more pieces manufactured. I think of them as relatively Common. It is not actually a 'token' intended for circulation, but seems more a medalet. The medalets were suspended on a peony root necklace. I'm not surprised that the root did not survive until now. I have never seen an example of the peony root necklace for these medalets. A child would surely chew or mouth the token and not just the necklace. They may have been passed down in families. I have seen quite a few examples that were not drilled. Unlike your example, many examples were pre-drilled to suspend on a necklace. It's also possible that numerous unholed copies were struck for collectors. I would bet that they were copied, so perhaps some unholed examples are copies (or restrikes). Value for the [U]copper[/U] version is about $20 in F-VF or so, around $40 in EF. I would say your example should grade [B]Good Details, Damaged and Altered.[/B] Starburst scratches and rim damage which show under magnification on yours detract from value. You can find some additional information in these linked pages... [url]http://www.napoleonicmedals.org/coins/dh268.htm[/url] [url]http://www.napoleonicmedals.org/coins/brit95-20.htm[/url] [url]http://www.abccoinsandtokens.com/DH.Middlesex.0268.001.html[/url] Per Medical History, 1990, 34: 268-293 THE ANODYNE NECKLACE: A QUACK REMEDY AND ITS PROMOTION by FRANCIS DOHERTY "... Any parent who could afford the price of a necklace, [U]five shillings[/U] even in 1709 [I](footnote 8[/I]), was the kind of parent who could provide environmental conditions for the child better than the average for the time.." (footnote) 8 [I] That five shillings represented some two weeks' wages for a footman, 120 dishes of coffee in a coffee house, or a gallon of claret, for example.[/I] =================== [B]My NOTES:[/B] Surely by the 1790's the cost of such a necklace would be higher. One shilling = 12 pence. 20 shillings = 1 pound. Generally speaking, Conder Tokens were produced between 1787-1797. The are a few later exceptions in D&H, but I believe Bill told me none were struck after 1802. I have never really searched D&H to find the last date included. But if you see dates like 1811 or 1841 they are not Conder Tokens. .[/QUOTE]
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