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<p>[QUOTE="Stork, post: 3625922, member: 71642"]I have zero problem with 'washing' a coin or taking the time to remove a substance that can cause damage or is noxious. Wish I'd seen the thread. </p><p><br /></p><p>I mean, there's washing, stabilizing, dipping, scrubbing, whizzing, polishing 'restoring', (not to mention artificial toning, doctoring, etc...shoot lets add a mintmark while we are at it). Some are helpful, some are destructive, some are deceptive. </p><p><br /></p><p>What happened to the proof dollar above is sad. Washing off a bunch of nicotine deposit or pvc residue is helpful and desirable. </p><p><br /></p><p>OP (having never read any of your threads before), yes those are your coins to do with as you please. They are of little numismatic value as far as I know.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, it all depends on what you mean by 'cleaning'. Some are nevers (pencil erasers on wheat cents from childhood...ouch and I cringe at that memory, but boy those Lincolns shone!). </p><p><br /></p><p>If you are interested in 'sparkling coins' then it might be better to buy them thusly. That said, you can practice dipping on these two coins to your hearts content and when/if you ruin them by overdipping then you haven't really harmed the hobby. Someday you might find one that really would benefit and you'll have developed the skills. And skills are needed. </p><p><br /></p><p>But, look at that 1861 dollar and understand that it was ruined. If the previous owner had wanted a white coin then s/he should have bought one that way rather than allow that to happen. I suspect s/he either did it themselves or instructed their dealer to do so and a beautiful coin was ruined. It may be 'white' but not sparkling, not as it was intended, and not beautiful if it is as lusterless and drab as it appears in the photos. </p><p><br /></p><p>So, take your modern and plentiful coins, make them how you want or learn how NOT to mess them up. </p><p><br /></p><p>But I will say, never clean with abrasives, scrub, pencil erasers, dremel etc <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. Other than that, do some reading and figure out how to properly select both coin and method. </p><p><br /></p><p>In the interests of disclosure I am no kind of expert and my leanings are for a natural surface but one that is stable (in fact recently sent a couple medals to someone to check out to make sure they were stable as I was unsure and not about to mess with them). </p><p><br /></p><p>In any case, there are many more out there who know exactly how to do cleaning. My 'supply' shelf consists of distilled water, acetone, xylene (a newer thing for me), and a bottle of MS-70 which RARELY gets applied and usually in a very dilute amount. No Ez-Zest in my house.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Stork, post: 3625922, member: 71642"]I have zero problem with 'washing' a coin or taking the time to remove a substance that can cause damage or is noxious. Wish I'd seen the thread. I mean, there's washing, stabilizing, dipping, scrubbing, whizzing, polishing 'restoring', (not to mention artificial toning, doctoring, etc...shoot lets add a mintmark while we are at it). Some are helpful, some are destructive, some are deceptive. What happened to the proof dollar above is sad. Washing off a bunch of nicotine deposit or pvc residue is helpful and desirable. OP (having never read any of your threads before), yes those are your coins to do with as you please. They are of little numismatic value as far as I know. So, it all depends on what you mean by 'cleaning'. Some are nevers (pencil erasers on wheat cents from childhood...ouch and I cringe at that memory, but boy those Lincolns shone!). If you are interested in 'sparkling coins' then it might be better to buy them thusly. That said, you can practice dipping on these two coins to your hearts content and when/if you ruin them by overdipping then you haven't really harmed the hobby. Someday you might find one that really would benefit and you'll have developed the skills. And skills are needed. But, look at that 1861 dollar and understand that it was ruined. If the previous owner had wanted a white coin then s/he should have bought one that way rather than allow that to happen. I suspect s/he either did it themselves or instructed their dealer to do so and a beautiful coin was ruined. It may be 'white' but not sparkling, not as it was intended, and not beautiful if it is as lusterless and drab as it appears in the photos. So, take your modern and plentiful coins, make them how you want or learn how NOT to mess them up. But I will say, never clean with abrasives, scrub, pencil erasers, dremel etc :D. Other than that, do some reading and figure out how to properly select both coin and method. In the interests of disclosure I am no kind of expert and my leanings are for a natural surface but one that is stable (in fact recently sent a couple medals to someone to check out to make sure they were stable as I was unsure and not about to mess with them). In any case, there are many more out there who know exactly how to do cleaning. My 'supply' shelf consists of distilled water, acetone, xylene (a newer thing for me), and a bottle of MS-70 which RARELY gets applied and usually in a very dilute amount. No Ez-Zest in my house.[/QUOTE]
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