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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3284321, member: 19463"]Since you failed to read the link provided, you missed the fact that there was Valerus Valens who was appointed Augustus by Licinius I during a period when he was fighting Constantine I. When they made peace, Valens was executed and it is thought that his coins were recalled (a very rare occurrence in Roman times) so a decent looking AE of his would be in the $10,000+ bracket. CNG has sold half a dozen genuine ones over the years including one in Triton X for $37,500 +fluff. There are many fakes not to mention disagreement as to which coins are good and which are bad. I would want to be very certain a late Roman bronze was good before I paid that kind of money. Very, very certain. </p><p><a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=97191" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=97191" rel="nofollow">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=97191</a></p><p><br /></p><p>My Licinius here is RIC 18 of Alexandria from that same issue. I paid $14. Valens was RIC 19. I don't have that one. A few obverse letters make this only a spacefiller for a coin I will never have.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]868392[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The Valens you have was the brother of Valentinian I and fifty years later. His coins are extremely common but use the reverses of his day rather than this Jupiter. Why history has not called him Valens II is beyond me. Since Valens 'the Usurper' was made Augustus by a legitimate Augustus (Licinius) it seems wrong to consider him a usurper. He was a general who did what his Augustus told him to do and was executed when Licinius Augustus was ordered by Constantine to get rid of him. This is a fine example of what comes from being loyal to the wrong ruler. It seems pretty obvious that being married to Constantine's half sister was the only reason Licinius survived that event which he later repeated when he named Martinian Augustus a few years later.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 3284321, member: 19463"]Since you failed to read the link provided, you missed the fact that there was Valerus Valens who was appointed Augustus by Licinius I during a period when he was fighting Constantine I. When they made peace, Valens was executed and it is thought that his coins were recalled (a very rare occurrence in Roman times) so a decent looking AE of his would be in the $10,000+ bracket. CNG has sold half a dozen genuine ones over the years including one in Triton X for $37,500 +fluff. There are many fakes not to mention disagreement as to which coins are good and which are bad. I would want to be very certain a late Roman bronze was good before I paid that kind of money. Very, very certain. [url]https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=97191[/url] My Licinius here is RIC 18 of Alexandria from that same issue. I paid $14. Valens was RIC 19. I don't have that one. A few obverse letters make this only a spacefiller for a coin I will never have. [ATTACH=full]868392[/ATTACH] The Valens you have was the brother of Valentinian I and fifty years later. His coins are extremely common but use the reverses of his day rather than this Jupiter. Why history has not called him Valens II is beyond me. Since Valens 'the Usurper' was made Augustus by a legitimate Augustus (Licinius) it seems wrong to consider him a usurper. He was a general who did what his Augustus told him to do and was executed when Licinius Augustus was ordered by Constantine to get rid of him. This is a fine example of what comes from being loyal to the wrong ruler. It seems pretty obvious that being married to Constantine's half sister was the only reason Licinius survived that event which he later repeated when he named Martinian Augustus a few years later.[/QUOTE]
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