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<p>[QUOTE="Kasia, post: 1400339, member: 31533"]Excuse me for a moment while I ream into you:</p><p><br /></p><p>If you join what can be an expensive hobby then yes, you may have to have lots of bucks to play by "their rules", and that is neither unfair or opportunistic for the people who have been 'around the block' a number of times in this hobby. Either find a way to get the bucks you need to get where you want, or lower your sights to something that is within reason for the bucks you have. I am no big player on this or other fronts that can cost people lots of money, but I enjoy what I can afford and I am striving to put together a good collection of really nice coins based on what I can afford. In fact, the best that I can afford without adversely impacting my life in other regards. So I don't go around blowing money I can ill afford on coins, and I take enjoyment in searching coin rolls, even though it's not the most lucrative thing I can do. I actually make more money per hour in my regular job right now than I ever will be hoping to make by finding coins in rolls or change. I use some of that to buy some coins, but most of it actually goes to the regular things in life, like bills, food, housing, gas, etc. I also am involved in a sport (dog shows) where a number of people spend 100 to 200 thousand a year or MORE fronting one or more show dogs in the hopes of winning. Do I envy them? Yes. Do I wish I had their funds? Yes. Do I ever want to screw someone over that is a newbie in that field, just to feel superior? NO! That, in essence, is what you are saying you are doing, and you are rationalizing what you want us to accept as your choices. Well, the heck I say! You are more the fool for doing this, than for taking your lessons by foolishly bidding people up just because you don't like the fact that they have resources you don't. If you lose money that way, then I say you deserve what comes to you from it, which is money lost. </p><p><br /></p><p>As far as you saying there was nothing of value in those coins. Who ARE you to tell others what they find valuable, and to insinuate that YOU of all people are the most able to judge what value a particular coin has or doesn't, numismatically? I say you don't, and you already can know why, based on my responses to some of your other threads here. You are all over the place on coins, and you still want to base costs of coins on the Red Book, for you know who's sake! When the heck are you going to grow up?</p><p><br /></p><p>And who cares who makes it tough. I am in a tough situation with professional handlers winning with their dogs who are either about equal to my dog, or whose dog actually has more faults than mine, and they win because of politics. That and they've had 30 or more years in the business than me with my breed, and the judges reward them as handlers. It's a (word sounding similar to beach), but I don't go around stomping my feet and making grievances or trying to play in an unfair way. It is what it is, and it is rare that the newcomer with the dogs gets very far. In a different respect, I have actually gained personally by this, in that I am learning sportsmanship. That, I say, should be something you should strive for. Your lack of sportsmanship in this game of collecting coins is appalling.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is a free country, and you should be glad you have it. And I have seen and put out boxes of Free Items, (especially at Halloween) where I have also put out a sign saying to take only three or less. Why? Because, even though I put out plenty for what I expected for trick-or-treaters, there's a chance that more will come and I would like all who come to get the candy. Not just the first one or two. Secondly, it promotes the idea that it isn't just a free-for-all, but to be considerate for others. At garage sales, boxes of free items are put out with the signs, so that people who come out for the entire duration have an opportunity to get something "free", and any leftovers are donated to Goodwill or some place. It's just plain considerate to want to give as many people the same opportunity, instead of just letting it go to the first person. And yes, sometimes people are greedy and take more than I think they should. Get over it. Quit trying to emulate the inconsiderate people in the world. It doesn't become you anymore than it becomes me or anyone else here.</p><p><br /></p><p>And greed has not been ruining this country. This country existed and had greed all around for decades and centuries before we existed. It will exist after you and I are gone. Greed is a human condition for people who are selfish. And it exists in all nationalities and countries in this world. It has not ruined this country, because if it had, then you better not worry about coins, you better just stock up for the apocalypse, because, honey, the US will never get over this recession for all the greed that has gone on here. Old coins should be the very least of your worries.</p><p><br /></p><p>And as to your definition of what constitutes a hoarder of coins, vs that of a "collector", you again are not one to judge. You said "To me a collector is someone who adds a few things to his collection at a suitable pace over the course of his or her lifetime. A hoarder is someone who just buys it all...spare no expense....and stuffs it into a box never to see the light of day." Who the heck are you to judge what a amount and pace someone else should take with the hobby they choose, under the circumstances they can afford. Some people do spare no expense, and if they have the means, then by all means, let them. It's their choice in a FREE country. They are allowed to do what they want with their coins, and it has no effect on anyone else unless and until they are put up for sale again. They can buy all they want and counterstamp 'Scrouge McDuck' on each and every one if they want. That actually is no business of yours or mine... </p><p><br /></p><p>Stop being an unsatisfied lout and self-entitled (bad word, self-edited.... let's just say "person") and get a better mind-set, because the one you present here most of the time is just plain stinky.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Note: quick addendum. Added in post #53 to clarify something I said here.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Kasia, post: 1400339, member: 31533"]Excuse me for a moment while I ream into you: If you join what can be an expensive hobby then yes, you may have to have lots of bucks to play by "their rules", and that is neither unfair or opportunistic for the people who have been 'around the block' a number of times in this hobby. Either find a way to get the bucks you need to get where you want, or lower your sights to something that is within reason for the bucks you have. I am no big player on this or other fronts that can cost people lots of money, but I enjoy what I can afford and I am striving to put together a good collection of really nice coins based on what I can afford. In fact, the best that I can afford without adversely impacting my life in other regards. So I don't go around blowing money I can ill afford on coins, and I take enjoyment in searching coin rolls, even though it's not the most lucrative thing I can do. I actually make more money per hour in my regular job right now than I ever will be hoping to make by finding coins in rolls or change. I use some of that to buy some coins, but most of it actually goes to the regular things in life, like bills, food, housing, gas, etc. I also am involved in a sport (dog shows) where a number of people spend 100 to 200 thousand a year or MORE fronting one or more show dogs in the hopes of winning. Do I envy them? Yes. Do I wish I had their funds? Yes. Do I ever want to screw someone over that is a newbie in that field, just to feel superior? NO! That, in essence, is what you are saying you are doing, and you are rationalizing what you want us to accept as your choices. Well, the heck I say! You are more the fool for doing this, than for taking your lessons by foolishly bidding people up just because you don't like the fact that they have resources you don't. If you lose money that way, then I say you deserve what comes to you from it, which is money lost. As far as you saying there was nothing of value in those coins. Who ARE you to tell others what they find valuable, and to insinuate that YOU of all people are the most able to judge what value a particular coin has or doesn't, numismatically? I say you don't, and you already can know why, based on my responses to some of your other threads here. You are all over the place on coins, and you still want to base costs of coins on the Red Book, for you know who's sake! When the heck are you going to grow up? And who cares who makes it tough. I am in a tough situation with professional handlers winning with their dogs who are either about equal to my dog, or whose dog actually has more faults than mine, and they win because of politics. That and they've had 30 or more years in the business than me with my breed, and the judges reward them as handlers. It's a (word sounding similar to beach), but I don't go around stomping my feet and making grievances or trying to play in an unfair way. It is what it is, and it is rare that the newcomer with the dogs gets very far. In a different respect, I have actually gained personally by this, in that I am learning sportsmanship. That, I say, should be something you should strive for. Your lack of sportsmanship in this game of collecting coins is appalling. It is a free country, and you should be glad you have it. And I have seen and put out boxes of Free Items, (especially at Halloween) where I have also put out a sign saying to take only three or less. Why? Because, even though I put out plenty for what I expected for trick-or-treaters, there's a chance that more will come and I would like all who come to get the candy. Not just the first one or two. Secondly, it promotes the idea that it isn't just a free-for-all, but to be considerate for others. At garage sales, boxes of free items are put out with the signs, so that people who come out for the entire duration have an opportunity to get something "free", and any leftovers are donated to Goodwill or some place. It's just plain considerate to want to give as many people the same opportunity, instead of just letting it go to the first person. And yes, sometimes people are greedy and take more than I think they should. Get over it. Quit trying to emulate the inconsiderate people in the world. It doesn't become you anymore than it becomes me or anyone else here. And greed has not been ruining this country. This country existed and had greed all around for decades and centuries before we existed. It will exist after you and I are gone. Greed is a human condition for people who are selfish. And it exists in all nationalities and countries in this world. It has not ruined this country, because if it had, then you better not worry about coins, you better just stock up for the apocalypse, because, honey, the US will never get over this recession for all the greed that has gone on here. Old coins should be the very least of your worries. And as to your definition of what constitutes a hoarder of coins, vs that of a "collector", you again are not one to judge. You said "To me a collector is someone who adds a few things to his collection at a suitable pace over the course of his or her lifetime. A hoarder is someone who just buys it all...spare no expense....and stuffs it into a box never to see the light of day." Who the heck are you to judge what a amount and pace someone else should take with the hobby they choose, under the circumstances they can afford. Some people do spare no expense, and if they have the means, then by all means, let them. It's their choice in a FREE country. They are allowed to do what they want with their coins, and it has no effect on anyone else unless and until they are put up for sale again. They can buy all they want and counterstamp 'Scrouge McDuck' on each and every one if they want. That actually is no business of yours or mine... Stop being an unsatisfied lout and self-entitled (bad word, self-edited.... let's just say "person") and get a better mind-set, because the one you present here most of the time is just plain stinky. Note: quick addendum. Added in post #53 to clarify something I said here.[/QUOTE]
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