Let’s see your OLDEST ancient!

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  1. paschka

    paschka Well-Known Member

    [ATTACH = полный] 1252646 [/ ATTACH]
    300 B.C. India
     

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  3. paschka

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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    The above coin is the oldest in my present collection. But this one is older.

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  6. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    AR for “Argentum” the Latin word for silver?
     
  7. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    OMG you have a Croesus coin!!

    I know the “badge of Phanes” well. :)

    I wasn’t expecting anyone on this forum to have one of those!

    Just due to the fact that APMEX sold a gold one for $49,995 which is a lot of money.

    Incredible! I think you’ll win this contest since those are examples of some of the first coins EVER minted.
     
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  8. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Very nice!

    Looks like that heavy Denarius is from the earlier Roman Republic rather than the Roman Empire like most coinage.

    I love the Roman Republic stuff. Before Emperors started screwing things up.
     
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  9. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    The Lydians made the first coins known so that definitely ranks high on the list of oldest coins. XD
     
  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    The Heavy Denarius is before the Denarius Reform of 211 BCE. Many call these Roman Diadrachm. However, they were tariffed at 10 Asses, which make them a Denarius (the Roman Denarius - a name derivative of the number 10 in Latin - was 10 Asses up until approx 141 BCE, when it was devalued to 16 Asses), Kennith Harl stated this in his book “Coinage in the Roman Economy”, of which I agree.

    The Roman Drachm was tariffed at 5 Asses or is a Heavy Quinarius at that time.

    This is a hard one to get.
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    Roman Republic
    Anon
    Ca 240 BCE
    AR Heavy Quinarius / Drachm
    16mm 3.0g
    Rome mint
    Helmeted Head of Mars r -
    Horse’s head sickle
    Cr 25-2 Syd 25 RSC 34a Rare
    Ex: CNG; From the RJM Collection. Ex Coin Galleries (17 July 1996)
     
  11. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    I have that book! xD

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  12. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    I'm not sure, but a few of these offered dates older than Rome.
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  13. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Would you consider that coinage though?

    It looks more like commodity money like the Chinese spade money or Roman Kingdom bronze dolphins.
     
  14. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    This is currently my oldest coin (still waiting for my Lydia third stater). An archaic Attica Owl tetradrachm. Off-centered, and therefore within budget. :)
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    500/490-485 BC. AR Tetradrachm
    21.5mm, 16.89g, 3h.
    Obv: Helmeted Head of Athena right
    Rev: Owl standing right
    Seltman Group Gii; Asyut group IVg.
     
  15. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    I love the Athenian owls! :)

    They are very popular and any person in Greece would’ve known what they were.

    Very cool!
     
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  16. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Amazing coin! :D
     
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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Please help me understand to what you are referring?

    What are Roman Kingdom bronze dolphins?
     
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  18. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Sorry I was wrong. They were proto-Greek. I’m always mixing up Greek and Roman things. I think it’s because the Romans modeled themselves after the Greeks.

    They made Zeus into Jupiter, Mars into Ares, Hera into Athena, and basically just copied a lot of Greek culture.

    I knew the time period was around the Roman Kingdom time period but I got the civilization wrong.


    But anyway what I meant are these things.

    They are actually pretty cheap for the history they have.

    Looks like the head and neck of a goose to me.

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  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I figured you were referring to the Olbia dolphins. They seem fun, though I've never owned one. If I ever did, I reckon I'd try for a more dolphin-like one with better style than some of the blobbier, crude ones.
     
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  20. Gam3rBlake

    Gam3rBlake Well-Known Member

    Yeah I just got mixed up.

    Its incredible that they’re only $23.

    But it would definitely be a cool talking point.

    I hear in Europe every time a farmer digs a hole they end up finding more Roman coins. Not literally but it happens a lot.

    Ive always dreamed of finding a really nice old coin but sadly it won’t happen in the US since native Americans didn’t use coinage :/.

    The oldest that could be found would probably be like a Pine Tree Shilling (only on the East Coast) but that would be cool too!
     
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  21. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    Hera corresponds to Junona and Athena to Minerva.
    Olbia dolphins are not rare and I think I saw them in all of the large auctions I took part in. Even if they are interesting (even geographically and historically , they were used in my area) and cheap, I decided to skip them. Main reason is that I, personally, can't tell if they are genuine or 'reproductions' - to use a soft term.
    I was very disappointed and concerned when I noticed there are modern fakes for cheap and common coins and I simply don't want one.
     
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