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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Lehigh96, post: 3156467, member: 15309&quot;]Doug and Kurt were talking past each other because they is what they do.&nbsp; I&#039;ve been debating Doug on this forum for 10 years, trust me, he will never concede any point, EVER.&nbsp; And the majority of his arguments are based on silly semantics, just like this one.&nbsp; You are a good disciple though, further muddying the waters by separating whizzing into the &quot;method&quot; and &quot;description&quot; of damage.</p><p><br /></p><p>If that weren&#039;t enough, you attempt to obfuscate the issue further by introducing an analogy in the most divisive arena within numismatics, toning.&nbsp; However, you have stumbled, by accident, into the very reason why &quot;method&quot; doesn&#039;t matter.&nbsp; When evaluating a coin, you have only the coin.&nbsp; You don&#039;t have information on what happened to that coin before it got to you.&nbsp; You can only decide based on the surfaces of the coin, your best guess at to what happened.&nbsp; In the toning world, people like Doug will tell you that what separates artificial toning from natural toning is intent.&nbsp; He states this knowing full well that the intent of the previous owners is a impossible to obtain.&nbsp; All you can do is look at the toning and decide if the indicators tell you the toning is original or artificial.</p><p><br /></p><p>Likewise, when looking at a whizzed coin, there is absolutely no way to definitively say whether a metal brush or plastic brush was used to impart the metal displacement.&nbsp; You can never know that information, so just like &quot;intent&quot; with respect to toning, &quot;method&quot; with respect to whizzing is meaningless.&nbsp; Almost everyone who looked at the OP&#039;s coin thought it was whizzed because it has the same look that all whizzed coins show, simulated luster in the fields.&nbsp; Doug doesn&#039;t even dispute that, he simply disqualifies it because it doesn&#039;t show what he considers the &quot;tell tale&quot; sign of metal buildup at the devices. </p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m curious, have you ever seen a whizzed coin in hand?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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