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<p>[QUOTE="Cachecoins, post: 4593915, member: 111237"]Heart of Darkness was an outstanding book, one if the best books I have ever read. One of two books, I, Claudius being the other, that inspired me to study history.</p><p><br /></p><p>The only thing I dispute and find wrong is the common practice if presenting numbers that cannot be known and intent that was not there. If that is not a problem with you then we probably agree on most other points. I personally believe he knew of the atrocities I just am not sure if he was aware of the extent and I do not believe his intent was genocide. I do not know if he told his agents to mutilate and kill or if they took those actions on their own as a way to use fear to motivate them to meet quotas and he did nothing to stop it. These things were not clear to me in my research.</p><p><br /></p><p>My interest in this history is because in college I studied colonialism... Spanish, Rhodesia, South Africa, Borneo, etc...and I noticed as I read about the Congo that there was a lot being said that could not be verified so I chose to try and confirm some of the facts being present and found that in many cases there were no sources or the source was a story or data that could not be confirmed. I found a lot of sloppy history there...mostly by writers who were not historians but reporters who did not really research as much as regurgitate information and this sloppy history and data became fact to people who never bother to check the veracity.</p><p><br /></p><p>Again, my intention is not to minimize these events but to clarify what is and isn't known.</p><p><br /></p><p>What IS known is that there were severe crimes against humanity perpetrated in the Congo at this time. Sadly it is still happening today.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Cachecoins, post: 4593915, member: 111237"]Heart of Darkness was an outstanding book, one if the best books I have ever read. One of two books, I, Claudius being the other, that inspired me to study history. The only thing I dispute and find wrong is the common practice if presenting numbers that cannot be known and intent that was not there. If that is not a problem with you then we probably agree on most other points. I personally believe he knew of the atrocities I just am not sure if he was aware of the extent and I do not believe his intent was genocide. I do not know if he told his agents to mutilate and kill or if they took those actions on their own as a way to use fear to motivate them to meet quotas and he did nothing to stop it. These things were not clear to me in my research. My interest in this history is because in college I studied colonialism... Spanish, Rhodesia, South Africa, Borneo, etc...and I noticed as I read about the Congo that there was a lot being said that could not be verified so I chose to try and confirm some of the facts being present and found that in many cases there were no sources or the source was a story or data that could not be confirmed. I found a lot of sloppy history there...mostly by writers who were not historians but reporters who did not really research as much as regurgitate information and this sloppy history and data became fact to people who never bother to check the veracity. Again, my intention is not to minimize these events but to clarify what is and isn't known. What IS known is that there were severe crimes against humanity perpetrated in the Congo at this time. Sadly it is still happening today.[/QUOTE]
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