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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 439424, member: 112&quot;]David, the intention of my comment was that I was done discussing it with Toad because he keeps on going off on a tangent instead of the original question.</p><p><br /></p><p>You are also going off on a tangent that has nothing to do with the original question, which was - is it legal to sell a counterfeit coin ? As I said, yes it is as long as you describe that coin as counterfeit. </p><p><br /></p><p>The laws that deal with this are quite plain. They clearly state that in order for it to be illegal to sell a counterfeit coin that there must be intent to defraud. Since nobody else would bother to look it up, I will quote the laws - </p><p><br /></p><p>TITLE 18 &gt; PART I &gt; CHAPTER 25 &gt; </p><p>485. Coins or bars</p><p><br /></p><p>Whoever falsely makes, forges, or counterfeits any coin or bar in resemblance or similitude of any coin of a denomination higher than 5 cents or any gold or silver bar coined or stamped at any mint or assay office of the United States, or in resemblance or similitude of any foreign gold or silver coin current in the United States or in actual use and circulation as money within the United States; or</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Whoever passes, utters, publishes, sells, possesses, or brings into the United States any false, forged, or counterfeit coin or bar, knowing the same to be false, forged, or counterfeit, <u><b>with intent to defraud any body politic or corporate, or any person,</b></u> or attempts the commission of any offense described in this paragraph— </p><p><br /></p><p>Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than fifteen years, or both.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And they have a law for minor coins as well - </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>TITLE 18 &gt; PART I &gt; CHAPTER 25 &gt; </p><p>490. Minor coins</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Whoever falsely makes, forges, or counterfeits any coin in the resemblance or similitude of any of the one-cent and 5-cent coins minted at the mints of the United States; or </p><p><br /></p><p>Whoever passes, utters, publishes, or sells, or brings into the United States, or possesses any such false, forged, or counterfeited coin, <u><b>with intent to defraud any person,</b></u> shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>What you are asking David has nothing to do with the law. You asking about a question of ethics, that being, should a person who possesses an unmarked counterfeit coin, mark that coin so that it may not be used to defraud another at a later date. In my opinion, that is up to the person who owns the coin. It is not for us to decide.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, I understand your point, even agree with the idea to a point. But then&nbsp; by the same token I do not believe that we have the right to dictate to someone else what they should do with their property as long as it is within the laws of this nation to do nothing to that property.</p><p><br /></p><p>As to how does it destroy its value ? It destroys it the same way that altering any coin destroys its value. For once altered, it is not what it once was. And there are many counterfeits that have considerable value. And if a person chooses to pay for that counterfeit, then we have no right to force them to alter that coin - again because there is no law saying they have to.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And for those who would think to ask the question, yes these laws are current as of Jan. 3, 2007.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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