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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Jeepfreak81, post: 24882886, member: 93888&quot;]That&#039;s a coin I can clearly tell was harshly cleaned.&nbsp; I guess my confusion on cleaned coins was coming from stuff I&#039;d see slabbed as details cleaned and I wasn&#039;t immediately noticing evidence of that.&nbsp; Dipping further complicated it because it may not have any lines, but the luster is gone.</p><p><br /></p><p>All that being said, I don&#039;t give a ship about market grading for the most part.&nbsp; I&#039;d just like to reasonably accurately place my coins in a bracket for grade.&nbsp; Fine, Extra Fine, AU, etc etc.&nbsp; Maybe someday I might fine tune my skills and start using the numerical designations but for now I dont&#039; really care.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also - Once we&#039;ve hit MS63 and higher....I again dont&#039; care.&nbsp; For one, because I own very few coins that fit that bill and none that are high end coins.&nbsp; My area of collecting falls mostly in the VF-AU range with some MS/PF stuff here and there.</p><p><br /></p><p>My collection will likely never see gold or better date silver, at least no time soon.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lastly - over the weekend I watched some of the PCGS videos on youtube and definetly learned a few things.&nbsp; Related to the conversation that&#039;s blossomed in the later parts of this thread, I now understand more why so many coins get marked as no grade/details.</p><p><br /></p><p>I misunderstood what the &quot;purpose&quot; of TPGs was for originally.&nbsp; It was designed for sight unseen purchases.&nbsp; A way to buy a grade and know you got something you wanted.&nbsp; The problem is, not everyone wants the same thing but the majority would not dispute a properly graded problem free coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>I too would gladly own many coins (I probably do) that would be labeled as cleaned as long as it&#039;s not as bad as that one above, haha.&nbsp; Light signs of cleaning especially on older coins, doesn&#039;t bother me.</p><p><br /></p><p>Oh and also I purchased [USER=19165]@physics-fan3.14[/USER] book and plan to dive in to that soon.</p><p><br /></p><p>*note - all references above using the term cleaned are to mean HARSHLY cleaned as opposed to acceptably cleaned (i. e. acetone rinsing)*[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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