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<p>[QUOTE="Pickin and Grinin, post: 24878420, member: 73995"]There is something that I think I see in your photo. I do agree that the coin shows die lapping or a polishing. But, I don't think that that is why they called it cleaned. An early die stage coin with nearly zero radial die flow lines. Still has plenty of luster. It is the just that the structure of the luster is on a much smaller finer scale. I think that your coin may be suffering from a little bit of loss of luster. </p><p>That doesn't exactly mean that it was lightly hit with a cloth or put into a pocket, dusted too many times etc. It can be a simple over dip to remove a light tone etc. Dipping is a form of cleaning, except that it has been made acceptable, too a point. A coin that has been dipped too many times takes away some of the luster every time it is done.</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2024-1-5_11-39-26-png.1597220/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>It's photos like above make it hard to grade from photos, because quality of lens type of lighting and style/technique of photos can vary so much that details can be lost from a set of photos. </p><p><br /></p><p>Each grade above a technical 65 is dependent on the reflectiveness and brilliance of that said luster. The more the fine small ridges the more brilliant it looks. And a technical higher grade. When you get into the 67+ and higher grades. IMO boils down to only fresh early stage dies. The luster gets even crazier.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Pickin and Grinin, post: 24878420, member: 73995"]There is something that I think I see in your photo. I do agree that the coin shows die lapping or a polishing. But, I don't think that that is why they called it cleaned. An early die stage coin with nearly zero radial die flow lines. Still has plenty of luster. It is the just that the structure of the luster is on a much smaller finer scale. I think that your coin may be suffering from a little bit of loss of luster. That doesn't exactly mean that it was lightly hit with a cloth or put into a pocket, dusted too many times etc. It can be a simple over dip to remove a light tone etc. Dipping is a form of cleaning, except that it has been made acceptable, too a point. A coin that has been dipped too many times takes away some of the luster every time it is done. [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2024-1-5_11-39-26-png.1597220/[/IMG] It's photos like above make it hard to grade from photos, because quality of lens type of lighting and style/technique of photos can vary so much that details can be lost from a set of photos. Each grade above a technical 65 is dependent on the reflectiveness and brilliance of that said luster. The more the fine small ridges the more brilliant it looks. And a technical higher grade. When you get into the 67+ and higher grades. IMO boils down to only fresh early stage dies. The luster gets even crazier.[/QUOTE]
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