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<p>[QUOTE="illini420, post: 1192427, member: 19423"]Based on the last set of photos I'm voting 95% against it being a proof. The I couldn't identify any of the 1909 VDB proof obverse diagnostics in the photos. However, those are tough to see in photos unless you have the lighting just right, so that isn't the main reason for my vote against it being a proof. More telling is that the photos do not show any indication of the crescent shaped die chip that is found to the right of UNUM on the reverse. The photos are clear enough to where some indication of that die chip should be evident if the coin is a genuine 1909 VDB proof. Unfortunately, I see no such die chip where one should be.</p><p> </p><p>WingedLiberty, while it's true that matte proofs are often found with wild color because of the sulfur-rich tissue paper the Mint issued proofs in during that era, there are many business strike coins that have plenty of colors. I have owned many many 1909 VDB business strike coins with very colorful toning, even some similar to Collector's coin. Remember, the a business strike coin and a proof coin both have the same composition. So if you put a nice red proof in a sulfur-rich tissue paper it'll tone up.... but so will a nice red business strike that has been placed in a cardboard album that has sulfur and other chemicals in the cardboard.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="illini420, post: 1192427, member: 19423"]Based on the last set of photos I'm voting 95% against it being a proof. The I couldn't identify any of the 1909 VDB proof obverse diagnostics in the photos. However, those are tough to see in photos unless you have the lighting just right, so that isn't the main reason for my vote against it being a proof. More telling is that the photos do not show any indication of the crescent shaped die chip that is found to the right of UNUM on the reverse. The photos are clear enough to where some indication of that die chip should be evident if the coin is a genuine 1909 VDB proof. Unfortunately, I see no such die chip where one should be. WingedLiberty, while it's true that matte proofs are often found with wild color because of the sulfur-rich tissue paper the Mint issued proofs in during that era, there are many business strike coins that have plenty of colors. I have owned many many 1909 VDB business strike coins with very colorful toning, even some similar to Collector's coin. Remember, the a business strike coin and a proof coin both have the same composition. So if you put a nice red proof in a sulfur-rich tissue paper it'll tone up.... but so will a nice red business strike that has been placed in a cardboard album that has sulfur and other chemicals in the cardboard.[/QUOTE]
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