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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Collector1966, post: 1190410, member: 17919&quot;]I&#039;m not sure that the normal die diagnostics would apply here. The 1909 VBD marked the first time that the Mint would try to make matte proof copper coins, and there was undoubtedly a lot of experimentation done before the first proofs were sold to collectors. And it seems likely that some rejects would have been made in the process. According to my grandmother, the original owner of this coin was a Philly Mint employee in 1909, so it is possible that he could have had access to the rejects, as well as to the final product.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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