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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7832859, member: 19463"]We must regret never really knowing where a tooled coin began its journey into oblivion. Andres2's coin may be better than the laureate one was before the tooling began. I fear that a much higher percentage of great beauties have had some work done including some that were done well enough that they passed our scrutiny. We often see tooled coins shown here and we laugh at how poorly they were done. The ones we don't see and don't find 'funny' are the dangerous ones. </p><p><br /></p><p>I have shown many times the star of my Black Museum and my favorite toolie. This 'Zenobia tetradrachm of Alexandria' (actually, none of the above) started out as a Flavian as (?). I found it very interesting and was willing to spend the $12.50 price. To me, the way the SC was reshaped into a date LE was worth the price of admission. I would love to know if this coin ever actually sold to someone with more money than sense as what it is 'not' for a price that would make us cackle in disbelief. Tooling, along with fakes in general, is a part of the history of numismatics whether you like it or not. Will people continue to patronize big name auctions known for selling these things as fine art? Of course they will. Oil paintings or retouched, repaired and massively reconstructed before being sold for millions. Statues are cobbled together from broken parts hopefully, but not certainly, from the same original. Museums are proud to display dinosaurs that share bones from several specimens or even species held together with artificial filler parts. Coins may be the last place where at least most collectors see such shenanigans as wrong. [ATTACH=full]1346220[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7832859, member: 19463"]We must regret never really knowing where a tooled coin began its journey into oblivion. Andres2's coin may be better than the laureate one was before the tooling began. I fear that a much higher percentage of great beauties have had some work done including some that were done well enough that they passed our scrutiny. We often see tooled coins shown here and we laugh at how poorly they were done. The ones we don't see and don't find 'funny' are the dangerous ones. I have shown many times the star of my Black Museum and my favorite toolie. This 'Zenobia tetradrachm of Alexandria' (actually, none of the above) started out as a Flavian as (?). I found it very interesting and was willing to spend the $12.50 price. To me, the way the SC was reshaped into a date LE was worth the price of admission. I would love to know if this coin ever actually sold to someone with more money than sense as what it is 'not' for a price that would make us cackle in disbelief. Tooling, along with fakes in general, is a part of the history of numismatics whether you like it or not. Will people continue to patronize big name auctions known for selling these things as fine art? Of course they will. Oil paintings or retouched, repaired and massively reconstructed before being sold for millions. Statues are cobbled together from broken parts hopefully, but not certainly, from the same original. Museums are proud to display dinosaurs that share bones from several specimens or even species held together with artificial filler parts. Coins may be the last place where at least most collectors see such shenanigans as wrong. [ATTACH=full]1346220[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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