" l'audace l'audace toujours l'audace" Didrachmae

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  1. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I attended the Charlotte Coin Club Show this weekend and had a great time visiting with some friends of mine! I will post the other captures in separate threads. However, this capture was one that fit well into my pre-denarii Roman Republic collection...

    I copied a comment that I made in a prior posting:

    " "If my memory serves me, I understand that when Rome went to the Denarius standard, they had been minting the silver Didrachm (several designs between 280-211 BCE including the famous Quadrigatus). They also struck a very short mintage of the Half-Quadrigatus, which was a Roman Drachma. When they went to the Denarius based silver coinage, they continued the Half-Quadrigatus which became a Victoriatus...or a Roman Drachm... They used the Didrachm, Quadrigatus, Victoriatus mainly for trade with the So. Italy Greeks (Magna Graecia).

    My theory: the Romans took a stance that "...Rome was moving from the 1st Punic War and into the 2nd Punic War. Patriotism, as well as pure survival of Rome was at stake. They had been decimated, losing as much as 125,000 to 200,000 legionaires and allies within a 3 year period when Hannibal was smashing them. It was utterly amazing that they refused to give up after horrendous losses. Their audacity, refusal to consider surrender, and their doing things the "Roman" way was the mettle that ultimately made them into world power." "
    This was from: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/rr-victoriatus-2nd-punic-war.269385/page-2#post-2250159

    And a lot of great Quadrigatii were presented in this thread for further reference:
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/anonymous-didrachm-quadrigatus.260624/page-2#post-2256870

    I love the audacity of the Romans to persevere after so many losses to Hannibal... consider the horrendous losses they sustained as a PERCENTAGE of their population, yet continue on fighting with NO thought of surrender!
    " l'audace l'audace toujours l'audace"

    Here is my recent Quadrigatus addition to the fold...
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    Roman Republic
    Anonymous Issue ca. 225-212 BCE
    23.8mm, 6.46g
    AR Quadrigatus
    Obv: Laureate Head of Ianus
    Rev: Iupiter in quadriga driven by Victory
    ROMA incuse on raised tablet below.
    Sear 31; Crawford 28/3; Sydenham 64a

    PLEASE! Feel free to post any of your AR Roman Republics that reflects any pivotal period!
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Fantastic!! Looks like you had a very successful trip :)
     
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I plan to post a little more... folks have been bugging me to :) I have scored a bunch of cool coins over the last couple months. I will get off my duff and start posting. :) BTW, I got the Quad from Perry. He says hello! :D And I like your new Avatar!
     
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  5. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Wow total winner Al, super details, awesome coin, i really like this type!!:)
     
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  6. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    now that's a nice lookin' coin! on the list for sure.

    get on it agleg...these coins aren't going to post themselves!!! :woot:;)
     
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  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Neat coin and a type I would like to get eventually.
     
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  8. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Outstanding coin! I especially love the legend on the incuse tablet; very nice! While both these coins are Cr 28/3 according to Crawford, my quadrigatus has the more common reverse, with ROMA in linear relief

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    215-213 BC
    AR Quadrigatus-didrachm - 6.78gm - 20.31 mm
    Obv: Laureate head of beardless Janus
    Rev: Quadriga right, driven by Jupiter, with Victory behind, ROMA in relief in linear frame
    Ref: Cr 28/3, Syd 65, SR33, RSC 24
     
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    The variants within the Quadrigatus series are pretty nice. Every time I look at them, I always have to look hard at several listings to determine cataloging them. Not only do the reverses have a lot of variants, but the obverse depiction of the Dioscuri are diverse. During this time of the War with Hannibal (2nd Punic War), the Romans were pumping out a LOT of coinage! They had to literally PAY for their very survival with coins and lives!
     
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  10. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Nice new addition @Alegandron and I'm glad to see some of your pickups.
     
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  11. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Superb coin! I'm glad you had good show!
     
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  12. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Great coin Alegandron. Thanks also for the writeup.
     
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  13. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I absolutely LOVE both examples posted!!! Congrats AL and ACG !!!

    I'm currently after a few 'denominations' I'm missing (Litra and Semuncia), but a Quadrigatus is still on my 'want list'....(and a RR Cassius and Sulla type, as usual LOL).

    I can't wait to see what else you guys have snagged!!

    I guess I'll post this denarius, since it depicts a commemoration of the moneyers ancestor and the expansive wars through Macedonia...circa 148-146 BC.

    M Metellus, 127 BC:
    rr deanrius metellus macedonian shield 127 bc.jpg
     
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  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have always loved this Denarius! A baby elephant in the window! And Makedonon is their Province (Roman leadership idolized Alexander III (The Great)
     
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  15. ancientcoinguru

    ancientcoinguru Well-Known Member

    Nice denarius MikeyZ! I don't have that one; I like the elephant head in the middle of the shield.
     
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  16. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Holy Cannoli!
    Thats awesome. I have hardly anything Roman Republic let alone pivotal.

    I do have this denarius that commemorates the defeat of the Greeks, coupe horse riders trouncing a Macedonian shield.
    DefeatGreeks.jpg

    Here are some neat tets of the Roman Republic period.

    AesillasTetradrachm16.5x28mm.jpg
    FirstMerisReshoot2.jpg
     
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  17. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Beautiful coins A-noob !!!
     
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  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Awesome Tets Noob! Well done!
     
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  19. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    Here's a couple from the 2nd Punic War:

    AR Sestertius
    Anonymous AR Sestertius NAC 5-2014.jpg

    60 Asses

    Anonymous AV 60 Asses Stacks 2012.jpg
     
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  20. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Wow that is a lot of asses!!! A simply amazing coin. I mean what else can someone say!!
     
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  21. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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