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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2354785, member: 19463"]The price is right. The second of your two denarii of Commodus shows Apollo with lyre with the less usual APOLLONI PALATINO legend. My example has the more common dated variation. I doubt anyone would pay extra for your more scarce coin because it is missing so much of the legend and lacks eye appeal above the price range you paid. My coin below is the common, dated variety abbreviating the name while yours spells it out and lacks the dating devices.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]479732[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2337772" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2337772" rel="nofollow">http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2337772</a></p><p>Your other Commodus denarius is also a less common variation but the above coin is a match found online by searching on "commodus denarius victory" nd scrolling down to find one that matched. This is a way to ID coins but you have to know something to select proper search words. In this case your coin has the abbreviation of SAEC FEL (Saeculi Felicitas) missing on the more common variations. Your coin is easier to read if you compare the bumps to the letters on the better specimen online. That is why the online one sell for 5x what you paid and, IMHO, is worth more than that. </p><p><br /></p><p>Your other denarius clearly reads ANTONINVS AVG PIVS PP TRP X on the obverse but searching on that string turned up nothing of use so I searched antoninus pius cos iiii using the reverse legend clear on your coin and the ruler name I recognized from experience. </p><p><a href="http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=antoninus+pius+cos+iiii&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&currency=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&company=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=antoninus+pius+cos+iiii&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&currency=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&company=" rel="nofollow">http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=antoninus+pius+cos+iiii&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&currency=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&company=</a></p><p><br /></p><p>That gave a lot of hits but a couple show a reverse figure telling you the name of the goddess of plenty Annona so another search on</p><p>antoninus pius cos iiii annona denarius</p><p>gave closer hits </p><p><a href="http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=antoninus+pius+cos+iiii+annona+denarius&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&currency=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&company=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=antoninus+pius+cos+iiii+annona+denarius&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&currency=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&company=" rel="nofollow">http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=antoninus+pius+cos+iiii+annona+denarius&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1&currency=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&company=</a></p><p><br /></p><p>There are so many date variations that you may not find a perfect match but you can get the basics as a starting point. Getiing perfect ID's might require buying some books that are not cheap or asking help on CT from people who own them. </p><p><br /></p><p>The point here is this is mystifying in the beginning and gets a little more clear with practice. Rarely have I seen three denarii as hard to track exactly but you seem to have got the less common option in each case. Since no one is trying to gather all of the many variations here, being more rare may not get you any bonus but can make the process harder. When I said 'practice' I did not mean a few times but many over a period of years. That is the hobby as I know it. Buying fully IDed coins is easier but not cheaper unless you count the investment in time and references you might make to educate yourself. I consider that part of the fun.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2354785, member: 19463"]The price is right. The second of your two denarii of Commodus shows Apollo with lyre with the less usual APOLLONI PALATINO legend. My example has the more common dated variation. I doubt anyone would pay extra for your more scarce coin because it is missing so much of the legend and lacks eye appeal above the price range you paid. My coin below is the common, dated variety abbreviating the name while yours spells it out and lacks the dating devices. [ATTACH=full]479732[/ATTACH] [url]http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2337772[/url] Your other Commodus denarius is also a less common variation but the above coin is a match found online by searching on "commodus denarius victory" nd scrolling down to find one that matched. This is a way to ID coins but you have to know something to select proper search words. In this case your coin has the abbreviation of SAEC FEL (Saeculi Felicitas) missing on the more common variations. Your coin is easier to read if you compare the bumps to the letters on the better specimen online. That is why the online one sell for 5x what you paid and, IMHO, is worth more than that. Your other denarius clearly reads ANTONINVS AVG PIVS PP TRP X on the obverse but searching on that string turned up nothing of use so I searched antoninus pius cos iiii using the reverse legend clear on your coin and the ruler name I recognized from experience. [url]http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=antoninus+pius+cos+iiii&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1¤cy=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&company=[/url] That gave a lot of hits but a couple show a reverse figure telling you the name of the goddess of plenty Annona so another search on antoninus pius cos iiii annona denarius gave closer hits [url]http://www.acsearch.info/search.html?term=antoninus+pius+cos+iiii+annona+denarius&category=1-2&en=1&de=1&fr=1&it=1&es=1&ot=1&images=1¤cy=usd&thesaurus=1&order=0&company=[/url] There are so many date variations that you may not find a perfect match but you can get the basics as a starting point. Getiing perfect ID's might require buying some books that are not cheap or asking help on CT from people who own them. The point here is this is mystifying in the beginning and gets a little more clear with practice. Rarely have I seen three denarii as hard to track exactly but you seem to have got the less common option in each case. Since no one is trying to gather all of the many variations here, being more rare may not get you any bonus but can make the process harder. When I said 'practice' I did not mean a few times but many over a period of years. That is the hobby as I know it. Buying fully IDed coins is easier but not cheaper unless you count the investment in time and references you might make to educate yourself. I consider that part of the fun.[/QUOTE]
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