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<p>[QUOTE="GeorgeM, post: 8140189, member: 28550"]I got fed up with the obvious fakes being advertised on Facebook. American Silver Eagles, $5 apiece, monster boxes of 1894 $20 gold pieces all graded ms70 for $1000, etc. Reporting them never seemed to make any difference. </p><p><br /></p><p>So, I started placing orders. Pay via PayPal Credit & challenge the charges whenever I can document fraud. Pretty straightforward when the selling site claims to be shipping from the US & provides tracking from China (as happens about half the time). They're out the cost of the item, plus shipping, and I have the latest examples of what to watch out for.</p><p><br /></p><p>Most of the fakes have been laughably bad. But some are disturbingly good. Most fail one or more of the following tests: magnetic when they shouldn't be, weight is wrong, diameter is wrong, thickness is wrong. None of fakes I've received seem to have been coined out of silver or gold (despite heavy plating present on some).</p><p><br /></p><p>Despite ordering coins in NGC & PCGS slabs, I have yet to receive a fake slab. (They mostly just bait and switch those, it seems.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Here was today's shipment (each came individually packaged in little plastic frames that stretch 2 sheets of plastic to enclose the coin but can easily be opened or shut). Heck, those are probably worth something, although I doubt they're a safe plastic for long term storage of a real coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>The 1916 Mercs were a *lot* thicker than they should have been. About 38mm thick for 20 = almost 2mm thick apiece (instead of the real 1.35mm). That also worked out to them being significantly overweight: 20 x 2.5g should be 50g, not 68g. I included a picture with 5 of the fakes alongside 5 real dimes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Only the poorest copy (the shallow relief super underweight 2019 Liberty) was magnetic.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1418991[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1418992[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1418993[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1418994[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1418995[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1418996[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GeorgeM, post: 8140189, member: 28550"]I got fed up with the obvious fakes being advertised on Facebook. American Silver Eagles, $5 apiece, monster boxes of 1894 $20 gold pieces all graded ms70 for $1000, etc. Reporting them never seemed to make any difference. So, I started placing orders. Pay via PayPal Credit & challenge the charges whenever I can document fraud. Pretty straightforward when the selling site claims to be shipping from the US & provides tracking from China (as happens about half the time). They're out the cost of the item, plus shipping, and I have the latest examples of what to watch out for. Most of the fakes have been laughably bad. But some are disturbingly good. Most fail one or more of the following tests: magnetic when they shouldn't be, weight is wrong, diameter is wrong, thickness is wrong. None of fakes I've received seem to have been coined out of silver or gold (despite heavy plating present on some). Despite ordering coins in NGC & PCGS slabs, I have yet to receive a fake slab. (They mostly just bait and switch those, it seems.) Here was today's shipment (each came individually packaged in little plastic frames that stretch 2 sheets of plastic to enclose the coin but can easily be opened or shut). Heck, those are probably worth something, although I doubt they're a safe plastic for long term storage of a real coin. The 1916 Mercs were a *lot* thicker than they should have been. About 38mm thick for 20 = almost 2mm thick apiece (instead of the real 1.35mm). That also worked out to them being significantly overweight: 20 x 2.5g should be 50g, not 68g. I included a picture with 5 of the fakes alongside 5 real dimes. Only the poorest copy (the shallow relief super underweight 2019 Liberty) was magnetic. [ATTACH=full]1418991[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1418992[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1418993[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1418994[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1418995[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1418996[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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