I find no reason to doubt that the broken sword casting was authentic. Dan would have absolutely no reason to fake such a thing, because he could have made his own broken sword die without it! The style of the casting is absolutely correct. The only other way to authenticate it would be by provenance, and I doubt that's available.
Or maybe... jusssttt maybe... it was the dude at the garage sell who made it who then sold it to the picker who then sold it on eBay ultimately ending up with Dan.
It has been scanned by an x-ray fluorescence device (XRF) and it is made out of a bronze alloy that was commonly used in the nineteen teens and twenties but extremely uncommon today. There's strike one it being "authentic." Plus all available data (and believe me, Dan has scoured it) suggests that nothing about it is wrong (Strike two). It takes time with things like this to be 100% verified and accepted by leading experts without say having a known photo of the original and you can match up exact imperfections etc. I say, stay tuned guys. If I had to put $10k down on authentic or not, with all evidence known at this point, you can bet your bottom dollar I'd be throwing it down on this cast being the genuine article.
I got a message that it isn't a US coin, it is a token, so the moderators moved it. I have no problem with it being on the coin chat forum. It is a token.
Don't we all lol. Roger burdette was trying to spread false information about it that contradicted his own words. And imo it was because he was angry that he didn't see it and buy it so he could sell it at heritage for 6 figures similar to the glass pattern cent he recently bought for $4k on eBay and sold for $70k at heritage. It couldn't have gone to a better guy though. Now we all have the opportunity to benefit from it instead of it being squirreled away in some big collection or museum basement
Is it the hair on the obverse? I have a feeling that due to the combined relief, getting a fully detailed strike on both sides of the coin might be impossible with the equipment he's using. Either that or the dies couldn't take the stress.
Sorry no that doesn't magically make it legit. It hasn't been examined by anyone other than Carr himself who has a vested interest in selling this design and making money off it. Frankly someone needs to play devils advocate here as I constantly see in these threads people spouting off with 'buy as many as you can, hurry up they're going to sell out, they will only go up in value' etc and that's all speculation. I seen the same thing posted with the 1964 Morgans and they've yet to sell out. These are the same tactics those pushing pyramid schemes utilize to sell their product. Some of you may be enthusiastic about the product but that doesn't mean they are going to be a winner or a great 'investment' as I've also seen stated. Without conclusive authentication the cast has just as much chance as being fake as it does in being real and sorry I'm not taking the word of the guy whose selling the story and the items as being the validation necessary. I've yet to see any news of this discovery on any numismatic site or in any numismatic publication. We have tons of people who lurk here without posting and someone needs to present the other side of possibility.
Dan Carr's artful products and sterling reputation speak volumes about him ... I'm a huge fan. It matters not whether I make or lose money on Carr's products. IMHO, Carr's products transcend mundane thoughts of coins vs. tokens. Their beauty is better equated with medallic art.
Here is the original eBay listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/LARGE-ANTIQ...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 I am all for verifying authenticity. I am hoping this news hits the mainstream numismatic media on the same day the 1917 O/S sells out.
So copying another artists design using a machine to do so is now transcendental. I guess I should start using my printer to print Picasso's and sell those then.
I feel the value of this type of stuff is going to follow the pattern from many years ago and drop like a rock.
I have noticed though people are either a loyal fan of his products, Harley Davidson riders, or they are sport bike riders, and hate his guts. I'm not sure why that is and it could be either a bad thing or a good thing in the long run. He gets a ton of love and a ton of flaq from this very forum. I will add though imo, l don't think he should be on here arguing with people even if it's to defend his brand, seems a little unprofessional, and it makes even me, a big recently acquired fan, a little off put.