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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7589402, member: 19463"]I'm not sure I see the question as what the coin <i>is</i> as opposed to what it once <i>was</i>. I see it as Theodosius based on the general blob shapes following DN on the obverse left vut am not saying that FF02 is wrong here. Valentinian III is more rare but wishing and suspecting do not make a coin ID. If you want a chance of a better ID, try this: Take a small piece of the thinnest aluminum foin you can find. This is a use where the cheapest stuff from the Dollar Tree is better than the name brand Extra Heavy Duty material you might use on the grill. Place the coin on a solid surface face up and cover it with the foil. Using something slightly flexible like your thumb or a pencil eraser (new and not worn to a nub) and press the foil down into every recess of the coin surface. Use force but do not allow the foil to shift even in the slightest bit. Now, examine the foil impression both on the inside and outside wiggling it in the light. Are the letters after DN more likely TH or VA? IMHO even if you establish the coin read VAL, selling it as a Valentinian III would be pushing the matter. Upgrade coin ID's need evidence beyond any doubt. All of mine are Theodosius II. Some of these have since left my collection and were sold in John Anthony's Coin Talk sales over the last few years. As you can see, style varies a lot on these. You need legends. The same goes for the mint ID. Style matching is fine for expert specialists. The rest of us need to read the letters under the cross. My first coin below is nothing to look at but does have full legend making it a bit unusual. The last one has some letter traces that could suggest Valentinian but I sold it as a Theodosius using the theory that coins are guilty of being the common variety until proven innocent. Perhaps someone got a 'deal'. Probably not. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]1307470[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1307471[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1307472[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1307473[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1307474[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 7589402, member: 19463"]I'm not sure I see the question as what the coin [I]is[/I] as opposed to what it once [I]was[/I]. I see it as Theodosius based on the general blob shapes following DN on the obverse left vut am not saying that FF02 is wrong here. Valentinian III is more rare but wishing and suspecting do not make a coin ID. If you want a chance of a better ID, try this: Take a small piece of the thinnest aluminum foin you can find. This is a use where the cheapest stuff from the Dollar Tree is better than the name brand Extra Heavy Duty material you might use on the grill. Place the coin on a solid surface face up and cover it with the foil. Using something slightly flexible like your thumb or a pencil eraser (new and not worn to a nub) and press the foil down into every recess of the coin surface. Use force but do not allow the foil to shift even in the slightest bit. Now, examine the foil impression both on the inside and outside wiggling it in the light. Are the letters after DN more likely TH or VA? IMHO even if you establish the coin read VAL, selling it as a Valentinian III would be pushing the matter. Upgrade coin ID's need evidence beyond any doubt. All of mine are Theodosius II. Some of these have since left my collection and were sold in John Anthony's Coin Talk sales over the last few years. As you can see, style varies a lot on these. You need legends. The same goes for the mint ID. Style matching is fine for expert specialists. The rest of us need to read the letters under the cross. My first coin below is nothing to look at but does have full legend making it a bit unusual. The last one has some letter traces that could suggest Valentinian but I sold it as a Theodosius using the theory that coins are guilty of being the common variety until proven innocent. Perhaps someone got a 'deal'. Probably not. [ATTACH=full]1307470[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1307471[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1307472[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1307473[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1307474[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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