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<p>[QUOTE="The Trachy Enjoyer, post: 7309429, member: 118358"]Quite odd. I am not sure what to make of this coin...DOC lists type 24 being minted in 1248. Presuming that this example is indeed of the Magnesia mint (which I am inclined to believe), the date of production would most likely come right before, simultaneously, or right after type 24. This would place the AR trachy as being well after Theodore Comnenus rule as Emperor of Thessalonica. </p><p><br /></p><p>Perhaps it was minted as some sort of move for dominance? Theodore's imprisonment by John (1241) and subsequent release as vassal might be a window for this. The trachy could have been a flex of John's power by issuing the coinage of Theodore with himself on there. It could also be a product for the Thessalonican invasion of 1251 by John, trying to take the city and demonstrate John's own worthyness to be Emepror over the Thessalonicans...of course, these theories assume the two issues are related[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="The Trachy Enjoyer, post: 7309429, member: 118358"]Quite odd. I am not sure what to make of this coin...DOC lists type 24 being minted in 1248. Presuming that this example is indeed of the Magnesia mint (which I am inclined to believe), the date of production would most likely come right before, simultaneously, or right after type 24. This would place the AR trachy as being well after Theodore Comnenus rule as Emperor of Thessalonica. Perhaps it was minted as some sort of move for dominance? Theodore's imprisonment by John (1241) and subsequent release as vassal might be a window for this. The trachy could have been a flex of John's power by issuing the coinage of Theodore with himself on there. It could also be a product for the Thessalonican invasion of 1251 by John, trying to take the city and demonstrate John's own worthyness to be Emepror over the Thessalonicans...of course, these theories assume the two issues are related[/QUOTE]
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