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<p>[QUOTE="lkeigwin, post: 1255459, member: 30400"]Doug, I was glad to read your description of Secure Plus, and its capabilities and weaknesses. Because virtually everyone gets it wrong. But your post was 100% correct. Good for you.</p><p><br /></p><p>PCGS has said that the will use the Sniffer, and possibly even the SP fingerprint device, on occasion, for coins submitted through its regular service. "When conditions call for it." I.e., when they suspect a treated surface, perhaps on a high dollar coin. They have other reasons, no doubt, and I wouldn't be surprised if they used the scanning device and Sniffer for coins submitted by certain "suspect dealers".</p><p><br /></p><p>Another misperception folks have about SP is that if the coin goes through SP a second time, and it is ID'd but there are no new issues, the coin will receive the same grade. These PCGS machines do not grade coins. The detect, they scan and compare, but they do not render grades. So it is entirely possible for a coin's grade or color assessment to change the second time around. A drop in grade would invoke their guarantee, of course.</p><p><br /></p><p>A lot of us feel that until PCGS uses the coin scanner on every coin there will continue to be holes, and the value of the technology under-appreciated. E.g., crack the SP coin, doctor it, and submit it for regular grading.</p><p><br /></p><p>Finally, the other concern is that for the scanning to be done, and for the Sniffer to sniff, coins have to be handled, placed in mechanic trays, etc. and the possibility of errant damage increased. It is a little disturbing to see the handling in PCGS promotional videos.</p><p>Lance.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lkeigwin, post: 1255459, member: 30400"]Doug, I was glad to read your description of Secure Plus, and its capabilities and weaknesses. Because virtually everyone gets it wrong. But your post was 100% correct. Good for you. PCGS has said that the will use the Sniffer, and possibly even the SP fingerprint device, on occasion, for coins submitted through its regular service. "When conditions call for it." I.e., when they suspect a treated surface, perhaps on a high dollar coin. They have other reasons, no doubt, and I wouldn't be surprised if they used the scanning device and Sniffer for coins submitted by certain "suspect dealers". Another misperception folks have about SP is that if the coin goes through SP a second time, and it is ID'd but there are no new issues, the coin will receive the same grade. These PCGS machines do not grade coins. The detect, they scan and compare, but they do not render grades. So it is entirely possible for a coin's grade or color assessment to change the second time around. A drop in grade would invoke their guarantee, of course. A lot of us feel that until PCGS uses the coin scanner on every coin there will continue to be holes, and the value of the technology under-appreciated. E.g., crack the SP coin, doctor it, and submit it for regular grading. Finally, the other concern is that for the scanning to be done, and for the Sniffer to sniff, coins have to be handled, placed in mechanic trays, etc. and the possibility of errant damage increased. It is a little disturbing to see the handling in PCGS promotional videos. Lance.[/QUOTE]
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