Large Follis coins from 3rd -4th centuries

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  1. bcuda

    bcuda Supporter! Supporter

    I almost never see anyone post up any of the large Follis coins.
    I had only seen pictures of them in books when I first started in ancients but never realized how large they really were until I found one metal detecting when I lived in Spain.
    Ever since then I have always liked them and find them kind of like cartoon art in a way on some of the bust types. Anyway here are a few of mine please post yours up for everyone to see.

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    Roman Imperial
    Galerius as Caesar under Diocletian during the Tetrarchy Era
    Silvered AE Follis (weight: 10.40g, max diameter: 28mm, axis: 6h)
    Heraclea mint, 5th officina, circa 296-297 AD

    Obverse: GAL VAL MAXMIMIANVS NOB CAES, Head of Galerius facing right, wearing laurel wreath

    Reverse: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, Genius standing facing, head left, modius on head, nude except for chlamys on left shoulder (falls low); holding cornucopia in left hand and pouring libation from patera in right; HTepsilon in exergue

    Reference: RIC VI Heraclea 18b

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    Maximianus 286-305
    Ae Follis 30mm 8.9 grams
    Rome mint
    Obv: IMP C MAXIMIANVS PF AVG , Luarate head right
    Rev: SACRA MON VRB AVGG ET CAESS N N ,
    Moneta standing left holding scales and cornucopiae.
    Mintmark S club
    Ric 100b
    Ex Sallent collection, JAZ Numismatics auction 163

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    Maximianus
    297-298 AD.
    Obv:IMP CMA MAXIMIANVS PF AVG, laureate head
    right (large head type)
    Rev: GENIO POPV-L-I ROMANI, Genius standing
    left, modius on head, naked except for chlamys
    over left shoulder (falls low), holding patera
    from which liquid flows and cornucopiae.
    AE Follis. Heraclea.
    Mintmark HTB. 9.8 grams
    RIC VI Heraclea 19b.

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    Diocletian 284-305 AD
    Obv: IMP CC VAL DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG
    Rev: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI
    Genius HTΓ
    Silvered Follis Hereclea
    12.01 grams 27mm
    RIC VI 17a

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    Maximianus 286-310 AD
    Obv: IMP C M A MAXIMIANVS PF AVG
    Rev: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI
    Genius HTB Silvered Follis
    Heraclea 9.8 GRAMS 29mm
    RIC VI 19b


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    Maximianus
    286-310 AD
    Obv: IMP C M A MAXIMIANVS PF AVG
    Rev: GENIO POPV-L-I ROMANI
    Genius HTB Silvered Follis
    Hereclea 10.95 grams 29mm
    RIC VI 19b

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    Constnatius I
    293-306 AD
    Obv: FL VAL CONSTANTIVS
    NOB CAES
    Rev: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI
    Genius HTB
    Silvered Follis Hereclea
    9.59 grams 28mm
    RIC VI 20a

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    Constnatius I
    293-306 AD
    Obv: IMP FL VAL CONSTANTIVS
    PF AUG
    Rev: GENIO POPV-LI ROMANI
    Genius HTB
    Silvered Follis Hereclea
    11.54 grams 28mm
    RIC VI 24a
     
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  3. Caesar_Augustus

    Caesar_Augustus Well-Known Member

    Ah, yes. My favorite collecting theme.

    Maximian
    AE Follis
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    295 A.D., Treveri Mint, 2nd Officina
    10.55g, 27.0mm, 12H

    Obverse: IMP MAXIMIANVS AVG,
    Laureate head of Maximianus to right

    Reverse: GENIO POP-VLI ROMANI,
    The Genius of the Roman people, nude but for chlamys

    Exergue: B/-//TR

    Provenance: Ex. Leu Numismatik Web Auction 10, Lot 1515, Ex. Tetrarchy Collection

    Reference: RIC VI Treveri 154b

    Constantius I Chlorus
    AE Follis
    [​IMG]
    296 - 297 A.D., Heraclea Mint, 1st Officina
    8.39g, 29.0mm, 12H

    Obverse: FL VAL CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES,
    Head of Constantius Chlorus, laureate, right

    Reverse: GENIO POPV-L-I ROMANI,
    Genius, wearing modius, nude, chlamys draped over left shoulder, standing left, pouring liquid from patera in right hand and holding cornucopiae in left hand

    Exergue: -/-//HTA

    Provenance: Ex. Budges-Beak eBay 2019

    Reference: RIC VI Heraclea 18a

    Maximian
    AE Follis
    [​IMG]
    296 - 303 A.D., London Mint, null Officina
    9.72g, 28.0mm, 6H

    Obverse: IMP C MAXIMIANVS P F AVG,
    Laureate and cuirassed bust right

    Reverse: GENIO POPV–LI ROMANI,
    Genius standing, facing left, head surmounted by a modius, naked except for chlamys over left shoulder, holding patera in right hand and cornucopia in left arm

    Exergue: -/-//-

    Provenance: Ex. Ancient & Medieval Coins Canada Auction 1, Lot 132, Ex. James Pickering Romano-Britannic Collection, Ex. York Coins

    Reference: RIC VI Londinium 6b, Cloke & Toone 2.01.007
     
  4. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    IMG_1881Folles obv..jpg IMG_1882Folles rev..jpg Yes, they are impressive coins. Images of the coins often have nothing in them to realize the scale. I see them as coins with the diameter of a sestertius and the weight of an as. Here are some of my larger folles with a sestertius of Severus Alexander, diameter of 29 mm and weight of 19 grams, and a US one cent piece for scale. Top center follis of constantius, at 8.8 grams, FIDEWS MILITUM rev, of Galerius at 11.6 grams, SACRA MONET, rev. at bottom left of Diocletian at 8.4 grams, GENIO POPULI, rev. and Maximinus II at 5.5 grams, IOVI CONSERVATORI rev. and probably double struck.
     
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  5. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    I love tetrarchic folles! I recently picked up this not-so-little lady from @Valentinian

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  6. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Supporter! Supporter

    They are wonderful coins in hand.. and reasonably priced in most cases - which is an added bonus.

    All of these are 29mm..

    Father and Son:

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    Diocletian:
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    Galerius
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    Galerius/Carthage
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  7. Fugio1

    Fugio1 Supporter! Supporter

    This is one of my favorite areas of numismatics. Years ago I sold most of my Folles to focus on Roman Republican coins, but I came back a couple of years ago and now I'm building a new collection of these coins. They have history, a style of their own, and affordability even in high grade. RIC VI is also eminently readable and easy to reference. Here are a few:
    The ubiquitous Genio Populi Romani
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    Historical - Maximinus as Filius Augustus
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    Style and Composition - Hercules Reverse type
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  8. svessien

    svessien Senior Member Supporter

    I recently took some photos of my coins from the period:

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    Galerius Augustus, 305-11 AD. AE2, Antioch 308 AD

    Obverse: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMIANVS P F AVG: Head of Galerius, laureate, right

    Reverse: GENIO IMP-ERATORIS: Genius, wearing modius, nude, chlamys draped over left shoulder, standing left, pouring liquid from patera in right hand and holding cornucopiae in left hand

    Reference: RIC VI Antioch 82

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    Maxentius AVG, 306-12 AD. Billon follis, Aqueila 307 AD

    Obverse: IMP C MAXENTIVS P F AVG. Head of Maxentius, laureate, right

    Reverse: CONSERV - VRB SVAE. Roma, draped, seated left on shield, in tetrastyle temple, giving globe to Maxentius with right hand and holding sceptre in left hand; Maxentius, draped, cuirassed, standing right; between them, seated captive; as acroteria, Victory; in pediment, wolf and twins.

    Reference: RIC 113

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    Severus II AVG 306-307AD

    AE Follis Cyzicus 307AD

    RCV 14674
     
  9. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark standing on the shoulders of giants Dealer

    I like the Carthage folles-- I think I currently have about 2 dozen. This one has almost the perfect amount of corrosion...if there is such a thing. It also has an I for Jove in the reverse field, so a a pertinent quote from Lactantius--

    "Where now are the surnames of the Jovii and the Herculii, once so glorious and renowned among the nations; surnames insolently assumed at first by Diocles and Maximian, and afterwards transferred to their successors?" Lactantius LII


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    Diocletian
    A.D. 297- 298
    28x30mm 8.3gm
    IMP DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG; laureate head right.
    FELIX ADVENT AVGG NN; Africa standing left, holding labarum and tusk; at feet, lion with captured bull, in left field I
    in ex. PKP
    RIC VI Carthage 23a

    Victory over Quinquegentiani


    http://www.constantinethegreatcoins.com/Carthage/
     
  10. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

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  11. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Beautiful coin of Galerius.
    Gorgeous coin of Galerius. I am drooling on the keyboard.
     
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  12. Ryro

    Ryro They call me the 13th Caesar Supporter

    Way to be, @bcuda! Your Galerius reverse is bonkers:woot::woot::woot: but so is the portrait.
    Some doozies in this thread:pompous:
    Here's a couple:
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  13. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    That GE
    That GENIO POPULI reverse is stunning.
     
  14. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter Enrich the soldiers...ignore all others

    Cool coins all. I'm on my phone so I won't be able to post anything for a bit!
     
  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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    SEVERUS II
    Quarter Follis
    OBVERSE: SEVERVS NOB C, laureate head right
    REVERSE: GGENIO POPVLI ROMANI, Genius standing left, modius on head, with chlamys over l. shoulder, patera & cornucopiae; SIS in ex.
    Struck at Siscia 305-6 AD
    2.3g, 20mm
    RIC VI Siscia 171a
     
  16. DonnaML

    DonnaML Supporter! Supporter

    I have only four folles of 28 mm. or more -- from Diocletian (an abdication follis), Maximian, Constantius I Chlorus, and Galerius. The Galerius is Ex. Giovanni Dattari Collection, and thus has my oldest provenance. My Galeria Valeria is only 26 mm., and doesn't quite qualify, but I'll post her anyway.

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    Constantius I Chlorus AE Follis Portrait & Genius Heraclea VF RIC 18a, jpg version.jpg
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    Galeria Valeria jpg version.jpg
     
  17. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark standing on the shoulders of giants Dealer

    She might be a smaller girl, but she's still a folles :D
     
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  18. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Supporter! Supporter

    Really nice @DonnaML - that Abdication follis is one that is on my list for 2021.
     
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  19. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    Coin Talk seems to go in cycles. There have been periods where we see nothing but AE1 folles; then we see nothing but Republicans. We have visited many specialties and I assume most will return in time for those who stick around. I'm sure I have shown these before but I have so few coins from last year that that is no surprise.
    Diocletian Trier left
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    Diocletian Alexandria with XXI
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    Severus II Cyzicus
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    Maximinus II Rome
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  20. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark standing on the shoulders of giants Dealer

    sitting on my desk right now awaiting my phographic renderings. The dealers pic is little grey --bleh. I hope to lighten it with some contrast and maybe bring up some hue, I will try when I am not drinking!:brb:

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    Maximinus II, as Caesar, 305-309. Follis (Bronze, 26 mm, 6.44 g, 12 h), Antiochia, circa 309. MAXIMINVS NOB CAES Helmeted and cuirassed bust of Maximinus II to left, holding spear over his right shoulder and shield decorated with two horsmen riding to left, four enemies below them; on cuirass, gorgoneion; on helmet, Sol standing facing in quadriga, raising his right hand in salute and holding globe in his left, around, stars and crescent, crest ending in griffin. Rev. VIRTVS EXERCITVS / B / ANT Virtus standing front, head to left, resting her right hand on decorated shield and holding spear in her left; in field to left, lighted altar. RIC 125
     
  21. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    I was going to say that face doesn't seem right for this guy BUT looking at my 'normal' one, I'd say this was a very stylized period for Antioch. Scroll back to Svessien's coin and you will see what I mean.
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