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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;beef1020, post: 2825583, member: 24544&quot;]Congrats, sounds like you&#039;ve been bit by the copper bug!!!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>In terms of late date attribution, I would only really consider Grellman.&nbsp; Newcomb is interesting from a numismatic history perspective, and cool in that it&#039;s hand written.&nbsp; But as an attribution guide it is hard to use and often incorrect.&nbsp; Grellman is your only choice here, nothing else is close.&nbsp; The material is not available anywhere online, and even catalogs like the Holmes sale are not enough.&nbsp; With that said, the book can easily pay for itself.</p><p><br /></p><p>Other recommendations, join Early American Copper club.&nbsp; It&#039;s an awesome organization and quite a few serious late date collectors are in the club, guys with 300+ late date varieties.&nbsp; If you get deep in the woods for late dates it&#039;s a must.&nbsp; New die states are discovered, they keep a census of all varieties and most die states as well as major rotations.</p><p><br /></p><p>When I got interested Jack Robinson had just produced the last CQR price guide.&nbsp; It&#039;s no longer current, but I would still consider picking up a copy to get a sense on pricing.&nbsp; It also has limited census information and gives a good idea on price differential between scarce and rare varieties.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Honestly, not much and certainly not well.&nbsp; Most of the counterfeits are still pretty poor and easily identified.&nbsp; I will add, late date counterfeits generally are not correct die marriages at this point, so learning how to attribute is your best protection.&nbsp; If you find a coin that is not listed, it&#039;s either a discovery coin or a counterfeit with the latter being much more likley.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Late dates are generally tough to attribute down in the f range, but vf plus can have enough detail.&nbsp; A significant portion of copper collectors still prefer raw coins and most of the major dealers still sell most of their inventory this way.&nbsp; I&#039;ll leave you with a link to the best late date collection online:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.early-copper.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.early-copper.com" rel="nofollow">www.early-copper.com</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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