Large Cent 1850

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Rheingold, Sep 21, 2023.

  1. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    Please let me know what you think about this coin. Would she grade straight?
    Color and grade would be of interest, too.
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  3. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    First of all, it's an 1853, not an 1850.

    The photos are not the best, but there is a small amount of wear on the coin. It is not Mint State. For that reason the color looks a bit suspect to me, but I would need better photos to say more.

    A lightly worn large cent can still have some red in protected areas, but it's unusual. Often such a piece has been cleaned.

    Here is one in a similar grade. I grade this one EF-40. It is raw, not in a slab.

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  4. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    Sorry, indeed it‘s an 1853 ;)
    I have a similar one, which was confound.
  5. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    There is wear on the coin, to me it appears to have been rubbed or cleaned. I do not believe it would straight grade, sorry. Otherwise, nice coin.
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  6. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I believe it should grade. Its die state is on the late side, at least on the obverse, and the pictures are a little obscure, but I'd think it's anywhere from AU58 on up through MS depending if the soft areas I'm seeing are wear or just attributes of the strike.
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  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Looks like it should grade but better photos are needed.
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  8. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    From the photos alone, I would say this 1853 would grade XF or AU-Details. While the strike is from tired dies, I discern XF to low AU level of wear.

    There is a non-trivial rim/edge ding on the reverse at K11:30. If this coin were to straight-grade, it would probably net-grade down a notch for this.

    The color is off I and the pattern of reddish color does not look natural to me. I would say this coin has been improperly cleaned and re-toned.

    There are also patches of roughness and pitting on both obverse and reverse, implying that this coin once exhibited a degree of corrosion (ground find?) or possibly PVC-caused corrosion that has been cleaned off. That supports the idea that it has been re-toned.

    Sorry I couldn't be more optimistic.
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  9. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I think possibly cleaned. I’d grade around 50-53. But then there’s the rim bump which really bothers me and I think would call for a details grade
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