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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Boss, post: 642213, member: 15110&quot;]Well Doug, I am on the BB phone so can&#039;t respond point by point but I do think you somewhat missed Tom&#039;s point.&nbsp; Your tone is even more of a turn off here and will actually cause the exact opposite response.&nbsp; When you introduce a counteintuitive concept (never clean coins which are dirty and old)to a beginner it needs to be gentle, not in all or nothing terms such as: &quot;cold hard facts&quot;, &quot;never, ever, waste of time, futility&quot;.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; A problem coin is not always a problem coin in my opinion.&nbsp; There are many hairlined coins toned over in holders and NO ONE on earth could detect that without the coin being dipped.&nbsp; Read &quot;Coin Chemistry&quot; by Mr White.&nbsp; I know you think he&#039;s a nut because he says toning is damage, but his arguements are based on pure science much more than anything any of us have said.&nbsp; He gives us an example of a beautifully toned Morgan Proof that the owner wanted blase white.&nbsp; The coin was problem free (they perceived the toning as a prob).&nbsp; Dipped and harilined everywhere.&nbsp; On this point I think you are unequivocally wrong (I can talk in absolutes too!).&nbsp; Years ago some bought a bunch of IHC and they were lacquered.&nbsp; Dealer paid next to nothing removed the lacquer and this revealed problem free high grade MS coins.&nbsp; Those WERE problem coins and were fixed.&nbsp; NCS fixes problem coins as well.&nbsp; I am sorry but do not agree with your points in this regard.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Doug, I think you should provide links to old posts if you don&#039;t want to repost.&nbsp; For the record I agree with Tom and nice job on the humility factor.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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