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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2214060, member: 112"]I'll agree that that with the most years the quality is better for collector coins and annual sets. But that quality has little to do with the minting procedures, it's mostly because the mint changed their handling procedures of the coins. The annual mint sets for example, until around '93, coins for the annual sets were taken straight from the coins minted for distribution in circulation. But after '93 they changed that. They began special production runs for the annual sets, striking the coins with higher pressures and lower speed presses. And they altered their handling procedures so the coins didn't get beat up as bad as they moved around the mint and went through the packaging process. And it is only the most recent years, say the last 10, that handling was improved even more. That specifically, is what improved the quality the most. That is why I say what I do, because there is the previous 23 years worth of modern coins where there was no improvement on the part of the mint. And even from from among those coins of the last 10 years, think of the satin finish mint sets for example, quality sucked. And the same with plenty of others too. So no buddy, the increases in high grade and ultra high grade coins is due to one thing - the TPGs significantly loosening their grading standards - nothing else.[/QUOTE]